darkchildsks
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anyone who believes this global warming crap, click on the joox.net link in my last post, then try and come up with some kind of argument.
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medicineman
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531 million cars with 900* exhaust, 4200 Jet flights a day with 1500* exhaust, you do the math. Plus all the industrial heat. every time you turn on your AC or your heater you are contributing to warming, Just check on the heat coming off an AC condensor sometime. Concrete and asphalt are reflectors of solar heat, even the heat from a lamp contributes. With 6+ billion people on the planet, it would seem to be obvious to me that we are contributing to global warming, I mean it may or may not be significant, but thats a lot of heat being generated by fossil fuels. So maybe you should do some research, even a fart is usually warmer than the ambient temps.
WhatAmIDoing
Well-Known Member
right on man. the earth may be doing stuff on its own, but we sure as hell aren't helping it stay healthy. we gonna die!!! (eventually.)
darkchildsks
Active Member
one volcano puts out more then double the greenhouse gases then all the factories in the whole world put together. More methane and co2 is put out by dying organisms and animal waste then all the transportation we use put together. whats the biggest producer? how about the ocean? it covers most of our earth and is by far the largest producer of co2 period. the amount of co2 in out atmosphere is about 0.25%, then you take into account how much of that is human produced? do some research dumb dumb...
darkchildsks
Active Member
I apologies for the 'dumb dumb' remark, but seriously, anyone who does any reasearch in the numbers and the real effects of 'greenhouse gases' can see this whole global warming thing is completely politically driven. It's used to force people to pay more money for crap that isn't helping the environment at all, and to stop the third world countries from using they're main recourses like oil and coal. Every generation has an END OF THE WORLD scare, it's all crap, just another scare tactic.
darkchildsks
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[SIZE=+1]The global warming scam[/SIZE]
Asia Times ^ | 02.25.05 | Derek Kelly, PhD
Posted on 02/25/2005 12:02:42 AM PST by Dr. Marten
The global warming scam
By Derek Kelly, PhD
Scam, noun: a swindle, a fraudulent arrangement.
A chronology of climate change
During most of the last billion years the Earth did not have permanent ice sheets. Nevertheless, at times large areas of the globe were covered with vast sheets of ice. Such times are known as glaciations. In the past 2 million to 3 million years, the temperature of the Earth has changed (warmed or cooled) at least 17 times, some say 33, with glaciations that last about 100,000 years interrupted by warm periods that last about 10,000 years.
The last glaciation began 70,000 years ago and ended about 10,000 years ago. The Earth was a lot colder than it is now; snow and ice had accumulated on a lot of the land, glaciers existed on large areas and the sea levels were lower.
15,000 years ago: The last glaciation reaches a peak, with continental glaciers that cover a lot of the sub-polar and polar areas of the land areas of Earth. In North America, all of New England and all of the Great Lakes area, most of Ohio, Indiana, Minnesota and the North Dakotas, lie under ice sheets hundreds of meters thick. More than 37 million cubic kilometers of ice was tied up in these global sheets of ice. The average temperature on the surface of the Earth is estimated to have been cooler by approximately 6 degrees Celsius than currently. The sea level was more than 90 meters lower than currently.
15,000 years ago to 6,000 years ago: Global warming begins. The sheets of ice melt, and sea levels rise. Some heat source causes approximately 37 million cubic kilometers of ice to melt in approximately 9,000 years. Around 9,500 years ago, the last of the Northern European sheets of ice leave Scandinavia. Around 7,500 years ago, the last of the American sheets of ice leave Canada. This warming is neither stable nor the same everywhere. There are periods when mountain glaciers advance, and periods when they withdraw. These climatic changes vary extensively from place to place, with some areas affected while others are not. The tendency of warming is global and obvious, but very uneven. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.
8,000 years ago to 4,000 years ago: About 6,000 years ago, temperatures on the surface of Earth are about 3 degrees warmer than currently. The Arctic Ocean is ice-free, and mountain glaciers have disappeared from the mountains of Norway and the Alps in Europe, and from the Rocky Mountains of the United States and Canada. The ocean of the world is some three meters higher than currently. A lot of the present desert of the Sahara has a more humid, savannah-like climate, with giraffes and savannah fauna species.
4,000 years ago to AD 900: Global cooling begins. The Arctic Ocean freezes over, mountain glaciers form once more in the Rocky Mountains, in Norway and in the Alps. The Black Sea freezes over several times, and ice forms on the Nile in Egypt. Northern Europe gets a lot wetter, and the marshes develop again in previously dry areas. The sea level drops to approximately its present level. The temperatures on the surface of the Earth are about 0.5-1 degree cooler than at present. The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
AD 1000 to 1500: This period has quick, but uneven, warming of the climate of the Northern Hemisphere. The North Atlantic becomes ice-free and Norse exploration as far as North America takes place. The Norse colonies in Greenland even export crop surpluses to Scandinavia. Wine grapes grow in southern Britain. The temperatures are from 3-8 degrees warmer than currently. The period lasts only a brief 500 years. By the year 1500, it has vanished. The Earth experiences as much warming between the 11th and the 13th century as is now predicted by global-warming scientists for the next century. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.
1430 to 1880: This is a period of the fast but uneven cooling of Northern Hemisphere climates. Norwegian glaciers advance to their most distant extension in post-glacial times. The northern forests disappear, to be replaced with tundra. Severe winters characterize a lot of Europe and North America. The channels and rivers get colder, the snows get heavy, and the summers cool and short. The temperatures on the surface of the world are about 0.5-1.5 degrees cooler than present. In the United States, 1816 is known as the "year with no summer". Snow falls in New England in June. The widespread failure of crops and deaths due to hypothermia are common. The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
1880 to 1940: A period of warming. The mountain glaciers recede and the ice in the Arctic Ocean begins to melt again. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.
1940 to 1977: Cooling period. The temperatures are cooler than currently. Mountain glaciers recede, and some begin to advance. The tabloids inform us of widespread catastrophes due to the "New Glaciation". The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
1977 to present: Warming period. The summer of 2003 is said to be the warmest one since the Middle Ages. The tabloids notify us of widespread catastrophes due to "global warming". The causes of warming are discovered - humanity and its carbon-dioxide-generating fossil-fuel use and deforestation.
Anyone else find something fishy about the final sentence?
Asia Times ^ | 02.25.05 | Derek Kelly, PhD
Posted on 02/25/2005 12:02:42 AM PST by Dr. Marten
The global warming scam
By Derek Kelly, PhD
Scam, noun: a swindle, a fraudulent arrangement.
A chronology of climate change
During most of the last billion years the Earth did not have permanent ice sheets. Nevertheless, at times large areas of the globe were covered with vast sheets of ice. Such times are known as glaciations. In the past 2 million to 3 million years, the temperature of the Earth has changed (warmed or cooled) at least 17 times, some say 33, with glaciations that last about 100,000 years interrupted by warm periods that last about 10,000 years.
The last glaciation began 70,000 years ago and ended about 10,000 years ago. The Earth was a lot colder than it is now; snow and ice had accumulated on a lot of the land, glaciers existed on large areas and the sea levels were lower.
15,000 years ago: The last glaciation reaches a peak, with continental glaciers that cover a lot of the sub-polar and polar areas of the land areas of Earth. In North America, all of New England and all of the Great Lakes area, most of Ohio, Indiana, Minnesota and the North Dakotas, lie under ice sheets hundreds of meters thick. More than 37 million cubic kilometers of ice was tied up in these global sheets of ice. The average temperature on the surface of the Earth is estimated to have been cooler by approximately 6 degrees Celsius than currently. The sea level was more than 90 meters lower than currently.
15,000 years ago to 6,000 years ago: Global warming begins. The sheets of ice melt, and sea levels rise. Some heat source causes approximately 37 million cubic kilometers of ice to melt in approximately 9,000 years. Around 9,500 years ago, the last of the Northern European sheets of ice leave Scandinavia. Around 7,500 years ago, the last of the American sheets of ice leave Canada. This warming is neither stable nor the same everywhere. There are periods when mountain glaciers advance, and periods when they withdraw. These climatic changes vary extensively from place to place, with some areas affected while others are not. The tendency of warming is global and obvious, but very uneven. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.
8,000 years ago to 4,000 years ago: About 6,000 years ago, temperatures on the surface of Earth are about 3 degrees warmer than currently. The Arctic Ocean is ice-free, and mountain glaciers have disappeared from the mountains of Norway and the Alps in Europe, and from the Rocky Mountains of the United States and Canada. The ocean of the world is some three meters higher than currently. A lot of the present desert of the Sahara has a more humid, savannah-like climate, with giraffes and savannah fauna species.
4,000 years ago to AD 900: Global cooling begins. The Arctic Ocean freezes over, mountain glaciers form once more in the Rocky Mountains, in Norway and in the Alps. The Black Sea freezes over several times, and ice forms on the Nile in Egypt. Northern Europe gets a lot wetter, and the marshes develop again in previously dry areas. The sea level drops to approximately its present level. The temperatures on the surface of the Earth are about 0.5-1 degree cooler than at present. The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
AD 1000 to 1500: This period has quick, but uneven, warming of the climate of the Northern Hemisphere. The North Atlantic becomes ice-free and Norse exploration as far as North America takes place. The Norse colonies in Greenland even export crop surpluses to Scandinavia. Wine grapes grow in southern Britain. The temperatures are from 3-8 degrees warmer than currently. The period lasts only a brief 500 years. By the year 1500, it has vanished. The Earth experiences as much warming between the 11th and the 13th century as is now predicted by global-warming scientists for the next century. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.
1430 to 1880: This is a period of the fast but uneven cooling of Northern Hemisphere climates. Norwegian glaciers advance to their most distant extension in post-glacial times. The northern forests disappear, to be replaced with tundra. Severe winters characterize a lot of Europe and North America. The channels and rivers get colder, the snows get heavy, and the summers cool and short. The temperatures on the surface of the world are about 0.5-1.5 degrees cooler than present. In the United States, 1816 is known as the "year with no summer". Snow falls in New England in June. The widespread failure of crops and deaths due to hypothermia are common. The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
1880 to 1940: A period of warming. The mountain glaciers recede and the ice in the Arctic Ocean begins to melt again. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.
1940 to 1977: Cooling period. The temperatures are cooler than currently. Mountain glaciers recede, and some begin to advance. The tabloids inform us of widespread catastrophes due to the "New Glaciation". The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
1977 to present: Warming period. The summer of 2003 is said to be the warmest one since the Middle Ages. The tabloids notify us of widespread catastrophes due to "global warming". The causes of warming are discovered - humanity and its carbon-dioxide-generating fossil-fuel use and deforestation.
Anyone else find something fishy about the final sentence?
darkchildsks
Active Member
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The above chronology of recent (geologically speaking) climate changes should place global-warming catastrophists (such as those who developed the Kyoto treaty) in an awkward position. Their fundamental assumption is that Earth's climate was stable and was doing just fine before the Industrial Revolution started interfering with climate's "natural" state. It is the Industrial Revolution, and in particular the use of fossil-fuel-burning machines, that has led us to the brink of environmental catastrophe due to global warming caused by increasing amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere.
But it is plain to see that both warming and cooling occurred numerous times before the Industrial Revolution. Similarly, all the dire predictions of global-warming consequences - sea-level rise, for example - have happened in the past. In fact, the greatest warming period was when dinosaurs walked the land (about 70 million to 130 million years ago). There was then five to 10 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere as there is today, and the average temperature was 4-11 degrees Celsius warmer. Those conditions should have been very helpful to life, since they permitted those immense creatures to find an abundance of food and they survived.
The Cretaceous was an intense "greenhouse world" with high surface temperatures. These high temperatures were due to the much higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere at the time - four to 10 times as much as is in our air today. The biota was a mixture of the exotic and familiar - luxuriant green forests of now-extinct trees flourished within the Arctic Circle and dinosaurs roamed. The global sea level was at its highest ever during this period, peaking during the Late Cretaceous around 86 million years ago. It is certain that the global sea level was well over 200 meters higher during this time than it is today. The Earth was immensely hotter, the CO2 vastly more plentiful, and the sea levels much higher than they are today.
The Earth has also been immensely colder, the CO2 much less plentiful, and the sea levels much lower than today. Fifteen thousand years ago, the sea level was at least 90 meters lower than it is today. The land looked bare because it was too cold for beech and oak trees to grow. There were a few fir trees here and there. No grass grew, however, just shrubs, bushes and moss grass. In the northern parts of North America, Europe and Asia there was still tundra. The animals were different from today too. Back then there were woolly mammoth, woolly rhinos, cave bears (the former three now extinct), bison, wolves, horses, and herds of reindeer like modern-day reindeer.
The major "sin" for the global warmists is CO2. The Kyoto treaty is meant to reduce the amount of this gas so as, they say, to reduce the degree of warming and eventually return us to some stable climate system. If we look at the historical situation, however, this is cause for alarm. For one thing, there has never been a stable climate system. For another, the level of CO2 in our atmosphere is near its historic low. In the long run, the greatest danger is too little rather than too much CO2. There has been a long-term reduction of CO2 throughout the 4.5-billion-year history of the Earth. If this tendency continues, eventually our planet may become as lifeless as Mars.
Glaciation has prevailed for 90% of the last several million years. Extreme cold. Biting cold. Cold too intense for bikinis and swimming trunks. No matter what scary scenarios global-warming enthusiasts dream up, they pale in comparison with the conditions another ice age would deliver. Look to our past climate. Fifteen thousand years ago, an ice sheet a kilometer and a half thick covered all of North America north of a line stretching from somewhere around Seattle to Cleveland and New York City.
Instead of reducing CO2, we should, perhaps, be increasing it. We should pay the smokestack industries hard dollars for every kilogram of soot they pump into the atmosphere. Instead of urging Chinese to stop using coal and turn instead to nuclear-generated electricity, we should beg them to continue using coal. Rather than bringing us to the edge of global-warming catastrophe, anthropogenic climate change may have spared us descent into what would be the most serious and far-reaching challenge facing humankind in the 21st century - dealing with a rapidly deteriorating climate that wants to plunge us into an ice age. Let's hope Antarctica and Greenland melt. Let's hope the sea levels rise. All life glorifies warmth. Only death prefers the icy fingers of endless winter.
What do you think?
Derek Kelly, who has been an American university teacher and a computer-software developer, is now trying to help Chinese university students speak English.
The above chronology of recent (geologically speaking) climate changes should place global-warming catastrophists (such as those who developed the Kyoto treaty) in an awkward position. Their fundamental assumption is that Earth's climate was stable and was doing just fine before the Industrial Revolution started interfering with climate's "natural" state. It is the Industrial Revolution, and in particular the use of fossil-fuel-burning machines, that has led us to the brink of environmental catastrophe due to global warming caused by increasing amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere.
But it is plain to see that both warming and cooling occurred numerous times before the Industrial Revolution. Similarly, all the dire predictions of global-warming consequences - sea-level rise, for example - have happened in the past. In fact, the greatest warming period was when dinosaurs walked the land (about 70 million to 130 million years ago). There was then five to 10 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere as there is today, and the average temperature was 4-11 degrees Celsius warmer. Those conditions should have been very helpful to life, since they permitted those immense creatures to find an abundance of food and they survived.
The Cretaceous was an intense "greenhouse world" with high surface temperatures. These high temperatures were due to the much higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere at the time - four to 10 times as much as is in our air today. The biota was a mixture of the exotic and familiar - luxuriant green forests of now-extinct trees flourished within the Arctic Circle and dinosaurs roamed. The global sea level was at its highest ever during this period, peaking during the Late Cretaceous around 86 million years ago. It is certain that the global sea level was well over 200 meters higher during this time than it is today. The Earth was immensely hotter, the CO2 vastly more plentiful, and the sea levels much higher than they are today.
The Earth has also been immensely colder, the CO2 much less plentiful, and the sea levels much lower than today. Fifteen thousand years ago, the sea level was at least 90 meters lower than it is today. The land looked bare because it was too cold for beech and oak trees to grow. There were a few fir trees here and there. No grass grew, however, just shrubs, bushes and moss grass. In the northern parts of North America, Europe and Asia there was still tundra. The animals were different from today too. Back then there were woolly mammoth, woolly rhinos, cave bears (the former three now extinct), bison, wolves, horses, and herds of reindeer like modern-day reindeer.
The major "sin" for the global warmists is CO2. The Kyoto treaty is meant to reduce the amount of this gas so as, they say, to reduce the degree of warming and eventually return us to some stable climate system. If we look at the historical situation, however, this is cause for alarm. For one thing, there has never been a stable climate system. For another, the level of CO2 in our atmosphere is near its historic low. In the long run, the greatest danger is too little rather than too much CO2. There has been a long-term reduction of CO2 throughout the 4.5-billion-year history of the Earth. If this tendency continues, eventually our planet may become as lifeless as Mars.
Glaciation has prevailed for 90% of the last several million years. Extreme cold. Biting cold. Cold too intense for bikinis and swimming trunks. No matter what scary scenarios global-warming enthusiasts dream up, they pale in comparison with the conditions another ice age would deliver. Look to our past climate. Fifteen thousand years ago, an ice sheet a kilometer and a half thick covered all of North America north of a line stretching from somewhere around Seattle to Cleveland and New York City.
Instead of reducing CO2, we should, perhaps, be increasing it. We should pay the smokestack industries hard dollars for every kilogram of soot they pump into the atmosphere. Instead of urging Chinese to stop using coal and turn instead to nuclear-generated electricity, we should beg them to continue using coal. Rather than bringing us to the edge of global-warming catastrophe, anthropogenic climate change may have spared us descent into what would be the most serious and far-reaching challenge facing humankind in the 21st century - dealing with a rapidly deteriorating climate that wants to plunge us into an ice age. Let's hope Antarctica and Greenland melt. Let's hope the sea levels rise. All life glorifies warmth. Only death prefers the icy fingers of endless winter.
What do you think?
Derek Kelly, who has been an American university teacher and a computer-software developer, is now trying to help Chinese university students speak English.
medicineman
New Member
Hey, Aren't we talking about heat, don't discount all the heat signatures left by man. I didn't mention co2 once, now did I? we were talkind about global warming and mans contribution. I believe 531 million cars with 900* exhaust may contribute and the other things I mentioned also, so dumb-dumb to you sir. Have you seen a jet engine exhaust at night, a lot of heat there. This is a small planet and getting smaller every day. With all the 3rd world countries being exploited by corporations, there is now money for them to buy automobiles and create more heat. What about all the forest burning in S, America, Heat-heat-heat, ya see, there is man made heat and lets see 2+2=4, maybe, just maybe we are contributing to global warming.
darkchildsks
Active Member
the number one, undeniable source of the earths heat? THE SUN! any child can see that, you can spout off about how much heat we produce until your blue in the face, it'll never ever ever ever compare the the heat our oceans store and release from the sun, it's pretty simple.
darkchildsks
Active Member
so, lets suppose the sun went out tomorrow, forget how long that would take to effect us, and lets say the earth went black tomorrow, assuming we were able to run all our jets and cars and all these sources of man made heat, you think that would stop the earth from getting covered in miles of sheets of ice?
the numbers your talking about are used to confuse, not educate, they seem significant, but they're not. The earth is going to do it's thing with or without us. It's pretty self-righteous and ignorant to believe we have the effect on the earth that your claiming.
the numbers your talking about are used to confuse, not educate, they seem significant, but they're not. The earth is going to do it's thing with or without us. It's pretty self-righteous and ignorant to believe we have the effect on the earth that your claiming.
medicineman
New Member
What I am claiming is that yes man is contributing to global warming, no matter how insignificant you see this, it is still a contribution. Does it bring on the end of the world, who really knows? But it can't be good, that's what I'm saying. If we are just going through one of the normal cycles of the earth, well maybe we shouldn't be helping it along so much. Everything modern man does has a heat signature. That heat is adding to the natural heat of the sun and oceanic heat. May be insignificant and may not be so. I'd like to see the proof that what I've listed does not contribute.
darkchildsks
Active Member
you want proof, watch that documentary I posted a few post back... even the co-founder of green peace disputes the global warming fears, and did you read that essay I posted, it argues the more heat the better and what we should really be afraid of is another ice age or mini ice age. all i am saying is, the only reason global warming or cooling is an issue is because people know they can use the scare tactics to force people to do one thing or another, it's just another form of control. Another form of terrorisms. Buy into it if you want, I enjoy the freedom to think for myself thank you.
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
Are you serious? How about you dont do any research and just go outside? Where do you DWELL? in Montana?
DID you know that there are more people on earth right now (and the last 100 years) THAN people ever existed on earth in the past gazillion years.... ?
Do you know how many of these people have cars... or 2 cars, or 3 cars...
Now look at this picture... that thin layer around the earth.. that is where all the burn off has to go.. JETS, BOATS (SHIT LOADS OF TANKERS), CARS, COAL BURNING FACTORIES, and the list just goes on and on..
plus, there are half as many trees to day as there were 100 years ago... just tunble this shit around in your dome a bit.... and for god sake... if you don't think there is global warming or at least some fooking problem.. then please just sit back and chill and KNOW that you are right and let people who KNOW that there is a problem.... handle it.. and stay the fook outta of their way... and keep your fooking mouth shut and just laugh to yourself inside your little peanut. cause if you are RIGHT.. then great... but if you are wrong... then were all fooked.... kapeesh!!
iloveyou
FYI - If Earth were the size of a basketball, 98% of its atmosphere could be represented by the thickness of 2 sheets of paper. Earth's atmosphere is remarkable for it's concentration of the highly reactive gas oxygen, a product of the biosphere which it supports.
more FYI --- Compared to the size of the Earth , the atmosphere is a thin shell. The part of the atmosphere we know best - the troposphere - is an even thinner shell, only 12 kilometers (7.5 miles) thick. It is in the troposphere that all weather occurs; it is only here that life exists.
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silk
Well-Known Member
This is a perfect example of the convolution of the global warming debate. I don't want to put words in OpenDNS mouth but the stance he refers to is not saying Global Warming does not exists, it simply stats that the era of fossil fuel combustion is not statistically significant to draw conclusions using the scientific method. More importantly, science indicates that past warming periods had much more drastic temperature changes and much more C02 in the atmosphere. The scam is to influence people that the theory is fact and to make money off of their fear. There is a whole cottage industry based on selling this "fact". If you wanted to really dig deep into the rabbit hole you could draw many parrallels to the war on terror. Quite a bit of new funding has been allocated to bioterrorism research and vaccines for WMDs that either don't exist or haven't been used, ever.
Garden Knowm
Do try and take the time to watch both An Inconvenient Truth and The Great Global Warming Swindle.
Nobody is doubting that the earth is being polluted by humanity. The debate is on what to do about it and what people's motives are.
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
I don't give a fook what peoples motives are.. not to say that it is not important.. i just don't give a fook....
INTENTION is all that matters..
It is very obvious to me that it can't hurt THE planet or me or my grandchildren or my mom's vagina if the GLOBAL WARMING people are left alone and/or supported in their quest/actions to make the planet a better place....
as for the assholes who BASE their identity in/on being assholes and going against THE main stream cause THAT's what they've been doing since they fought tooth and nail to stay in their mom's vagina... well... now is the time to drop the "i'ma kook conspiracy theory" and try a different angle.. it is not helping anyone to figt or slow down the GLOBAL WARMING people...
that's all ima sayn'
INTENTION is all that matters..
It is very obvious to me that it can't hurt THE planet or me or my grandchildren or my mom's vagina if the GLOBAL WARMING people are left alone and/or supported in their quest/actions to make the planet a better place....
as for the assholes who BASE their identity in/on being assholes and going against THE main stream cause THAT's what they've been doing since they fought tooth and nail to stay in their mom's vagina... well... now is the time to drop the "i'ma kook conspiracy theory" and try a different angle.. it is not helping anyone to figt or slow down the GLOBAL WARMING people...
that's all ima sayn'
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
ok.. so what..... do you know the challenges a sperm has to make it to the EGG.... it is a fooking nightmare...
if I sell bullet proof vests ... does this mean I am against bullets....
YOUR point is valid.... but nothing else...
Let me ask you this... is the sun in on this scam... ? cause without the sun.. you know.. none of this can BE?
How about the earth? did you know that the earth is actually a concious being? anyway... LOL is the earth in on this scam... maybe the earth is sending out brain waves to make us change our habits so we will stop poluting its skin..
these ideas are just as valid as yours..
NOW.. lets get past this bullshit and treat this place like it is a crown JEWL... casue it is..
iloveyou
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
is this true..?
and what if you stopped thinking... then what would the truth be?
darkchildsks
Active Member
the problem is, they're not trying to make it a better place for anyone but themselves. they use it to blindly get people to pay into all this bullshit, and they're holding back other countries saying it's unethical to use your natural resources to develop like we did because you'll kill us all. I truly believe the INTENTION of our environmentalist have more to do with money and power than anything to do with the environment. Go follow the herd, don't have to think that way...
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
excuse me... YOU sound sane.. haven't you noticed, this thread is not for sane people.. please move on..
thank you
the management
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
oh ....oooooooooh... thanks for calrifying that for me...
I thought the only reason GW is an issue was becasue people could SPEAK..
or is it because we have an alphabet.... or maybe it is only an issue so we can debate it in our spare time..... fook... so many reasons to choose from.....
BUT im gload you clarified it for ME
now i get..
yes.. i am being a sarcastioc KAK!!!
iloveyou