God, The Bible And How We Should Believe It?

undertheice

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I think if we were not here, the planet would be fine and non-chaotic.
don't be such a foolish misanthrope. the only thing that would change if humans weren't here is that there would be no one to define chaos or evil. there would always be something to take the place of this planet's top predator and there is no indication that it would be any kinder or more orderly than mankind.
 

IregAt420

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. With or without evil, or with our without a "god"...I will be a aethist..
Thats amazing. You are so far already. Your saying that if there is a God, a One God, One Creator, that you would still be an atheist. I highly doubt that lol. Anyways, You have taken this DECEIVING theory of "you are a god" and "there is no god" and grabbed hold and never looked back. Sadly, once the false messiah (we call the "Anti-Christ") shows up, you will jump to him. Like all your insecurities were set free and you just jumped to him.

And, this is the first time i have been high in weeks. Love it. Just wanted to let everyone know. =)
------"It feels like the first time"..."Feels like the very first time" hahaha i had to do that too.
 

igothydrotoneverywhere

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I personally think that we have been made to think we have a "Freedom of Choice" post 9/11 alot of our constitutional rights and such went out the window. ESPECIALLY THE PATRIOT ACT, that act alone took away ALOT of civil rights :(

I think alot of people choice the argument that the presence of evil alone can or does dis-proves the exsistence of a "god". I dont believe in a divine god or a divine evil. I think evil is just evil. All which stems from civilized humans, and maybe one can go as far as to call it just human nature. Even in the bible "evilness" is awashed. So I dont believe the whole evil argument dis-proves a "god" I remain a aethist none the less. With or without evil, or with our without a "god"...I will be a aethist. I think sometimes people dont realize that being aethist is a CHOICE TO NOT BELIEVE IN A GOD....I think that gets miss stated by the " I dont believe there is a "god". Even under the extremely nil probabilities that THeRE IS A All powerful, all knowing, all loving god...I will NOT BELIEVE IN that entity or "god" regardless.
you perception of god is just skewed.
you think if there was a "god" that it would make your life easier and pain/hate free, why wouldnt it just create a uptopia for me?

Your short sided intelligence doesnt teach you that you dont perceive pleasure, peace, or love without pain, war, and hate. You think you are in full control and can teach yourself whatever you want.

you would still have to fight nature for food if you were by yourself out there, and judging by your tone you would last 3 or 4 days.

you have book smarts but no street smarts, no common sense, no leadership skills, no soul, and no god. you are worthless in the kingdom of heaven. you havent said anything of value or merit based in real life experience. you think YOU, a CHILD, that is probably 22-24 years old, can teach a bunch of OLDER EXPERIENCED MEN that there IS NO GOD? You have a lot of nerve son, and no facial hair to back it up.

hell you dont even live in the real world yet. daddy still pays for your room AND board kiddo.

do yourself a favor and revisit this post when you make your 30's so you can have some mature insight. thanks
 

crackerboy

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Well after reading this thread from beginning to end. I realize that most of the people posting comments about the bible have never actually read the bible. And to those that have read it, I say don't just read it study it. You need to understand who was writing each book as well as who it was written too and when it was written. It also helps to look back to the Hebrew meanings of some of the words and phrases. There is one passage that says "My ways are not your ways", meaning just because you don't understand Gods reasons does not make them wrong. It is ok to question the bible. I encourage it. I just ask that the first place that you look for those answers is the bible. You should at least give god the chance to defend himself. Don't look to some internet post first. If your going to question the bible than read it and see if it answers those questions.
 

mindphuk

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I guess I dont get how people can bash the Bible or The Quran or Torah and believe that we evolved from APES?????
-If we evolved from apes, please tell me...Why arent apes STILL evolving. If that was true, and I was an ape, i wouldnt want banana all day, Id want pussy and cars and AC.
Apes are evolving. There has been about 6My of evolution between chimpanzees and us. Where did you learn that apes stopped evolving? Do you even understand biology enough to realize that we are still apes ourselves? Even the creationist Linnaeus recognized this decades before Darwin.

It is very sad that you will believe wholeheartedly conspiracy theories with very little evidence like the Illuminati and believe in a mythical Eden that has absolutely no supporting evidence but are willing to dismiss the mountains of evidence supporting common ancestry just because you don't understand it and obviously haven't studied it much.
 

IregAt420

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What person has came out of the jungle naked and been like, "i made it! im human!'' and very little evidence of illuminati???? just search the evidence...its overwhelming.
 

mindphuk

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What person has came out of the jungle naked and been like, "i made it! im human!''
You are fucking kidding I hope. If you really believe evolution works like that then its no wonder you don't accept it. It might help to study at least the basic scientific principles concerning Darwinism before you try to debate someone about it.

As for the Illuminati, you're definition of evidence leaves a lot to be desired. There is nothing more than anything circumstantial, otherwise it wouldn't be classified as a conspiracy theory now would it?
http://www.skepdic.com/illuminati.html
 

The Potologist

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you perception of god is just skewed.
you think if there was a "god" that it would make your life easier and pain/hate free, why wouldnt it just create a uptopia for me?

Your short sided intelligence doesnt teach you that you dont perceive pleasure, peace, or love without pain, war, and hate. You think you are in full control and can teach yourself whatever you want.

you would still have to fight nature for food if you were by yourself out there, and judging by your tone you would last 3 or 4 days.

you have book smarts but no street smarts, no common sense, no leadership skills, no soul, and no god. you are worthless in the kingdom of heaven. you havent said anything of value or merit based in real life experience. you think YOU, a CHILD, that is probably 22-24 years old, can teach a bunch of OLDER EXPERIENCED MEN that there IS NO GOD? You have a lot of nerve son, and no facial hair to back it up.

hell you dont even live in the real world yet. daddy still pays for your room AND board kiddo.

do yourself a favor and revisit this post when you make your 30's so you can have some mature insight. thanks
Seeing that time travel is still not a technology, MM is unable to go back 18 years and revist his 30's. Perhaps his father would still pay for his room and board if he was still alive! Your renditions to predict the future and call names ( which BTW is a extremely childish act and simply immature) is still exposing your self as the ass clown MM entitled you as! So take your god, and preach to someone else. Your attempts to patronize him with your god are unwarranted!!!!!!!! Moreso, I am confident that everyone who has posted on this thread has finalized you as invalid, neurotic, and possible mentally misfortunate! I have known MM for damn near twenty years! He is the furthest thing from your reading level to even begin to comprehend! I will ask that you stop your disrespects, and insults before there is a need to bring in the powers to be to shun your continous tantrums stemming from failed attempts to sound educated and attempts to convert people to your views!

In closing Mixed Melody again thanks you for the awesome free signature you hooked him up with, and wish's you the best in all you do....Which he is convinced is not much if anything at all worth considering by anyone :) He is also convinced that your signature is the only thing valid about you. All of your post are lies, and that you make things up in attempt to gain some form of friendship, even if its only digital! Lastly he concurs that you have no self esteem!

PS- My personal views on religion are that A aethists views are just as valid as a believers views. Neither has more merit than the other, IMO. They both have their merits and their uses. I think the only possible awnser is through science. In that, I believe, its the only way to find out what would happen to planet earth. To say that the planet would be faced with a new top preditor, IMO, is just your opinion. There is no scientific evidence that would happen. That also insists that when humans leave planet ( for whatever reason) that we are leaving alone. Perhaps No one and nothing will be around when humans become extinct. If say a meteor was to hit earth that is the size of say, mars, I would imagine any and all life forms would be long gone. Or perhaps more realistically speaking, a couple of nuclear bombs, and tada, humans managed to kill everything on planet ( wouldnt surprise me) Thus leaving nothing new to become planets new top predator.Although, that is not to say a new life form couldnt emerge if planet earth was to be able to still be a host to life forms. However, under the events of a nuclear war/bombs I wonder what could arise on planet to become its new top predator. These very ideas alone are very thought provoking. Could one imagine a planet that was not inhabited with any life forms, whatso ever? I agree with you in saying we are this planets worse and top predator. We use earth like a ash tray with no thought or memory that we only get one shot with this planet. However, similar to the science of host and parasite, we will awash our host( planet earth) with our own carelessness, IMO. I think humans are on a path at moment to cause a self extinction. At some point, humans are going to over populate the planet to the point that our host can no longer support us humans and itself, IMO :) I believe Stephan Hawking has also predicted that humans have created a self-imposed extinction, but I dont know a lot about his predictions. However, I can honestly say that is logical, and has merit. I am still a believer that us humans have become our own worse enemy!
 

igothydrotoneverywhere

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Seeing that time travel is still not a technology, MM is unable to go back 18 years and revist his 30's. Perhaps his father would still pay for his room and board if he was still alive! Your renditions to predict the future and call names ( which BTW is a extremely childish act and simply immature) is still exposing your self as the ass clown MM entitled you as! So take your god, and preach to someone else. Your attempts to patronize him with your god are unwarranted!!!!!!!! Moreso, I am confident that everyone who has posted on this thread has finalized you as invalid, neurotic, and possible mentally misfortunate! I have known MM for damn near twenty years! He is the furthest thing from your reading level to even begin to comprehend! I will ask that you stop your disrespects, and insults before there is a need to bring in the powers to be to shun your continous tantrums stemming from failed attempts to sound educated and attempts to convert people to your views!

In closing Mixed Melody again thanks you for the awesome free signature you hooked him up with, and wish's you the best in all you do....Which he is convinced is not much if anything at all worth considering by anyone :) He is also convinced that your signature is the only thing valid about you. All of your post are lies, and that you make things up in attempt to gain some form of friendship, even if its only digital! Lastly he concurs that you have no self esteem!
noone was talking to you, but that is very romantic the way you came and protected your "buddy"

do really i need to go get my cult of rich successful affluent god believing adult friends to come here and back up the schooling i have given you boys in deuteronomy?
 

The Potologist

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noone was talking to you, but that is very romantic the way you came and protected your "buddy"

do really i need to go get my cult of rich successful affluent god believing adult friends to come here and back up the schooling i have given you boys in deuteronomy?
No we wiped are arse with your renditions of biblical madness and immature tantrums and have thus left them in the garbage where everything you stated belongs! I can care aless if you bring the ulmighty one with you and your following of rich successful affluent god believing friends. Regardless you have no point, no merit, and nothing even close to valid, let alone anything worse listening to! I am fully convinced that your signature is the only thing that has merit to you. "All of my posts are a lie, I merely make us BULLSHIT on a attempt to gain some sort of friendship or notarity, lastly, you have no self esteem, perhaps even mental retardation"

This argument is over, you can keep your comments to yourself, for that is the only use they have! Any more childish, immature, inappropriate name calling or abusive language will result in no comment being made. MM, nor I care to continue entertaining the young and the reckless. With your renditions and jokes there are hundreds of blokes who are laughing cause they have stolen your Thunder!
 

igothydrotoneverywhere

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No we wiped are arse with your renditions of biblical madness and immature tantrums and have thus left them in the garbage where everything you stated belongs! I can care aless if you bring the ulmighty one with you and your following of rich successful affluent god believing friends. Regardless you have no point, no merit, and nothing even close to valid, let alone anything worse listening to! I am fully convinced that your signature is the only thing that has merit to you. "All of my posts are a lie, I merely make us BULLSHIT on a attempt to gain some sort of friendship or notarity, lastly, you have no self esteem, perhaps even mental retardation"

This argument is over, you can keep your comments to yourself, for that is the only use they have! Any more childish, immature, inappropriate name calling or abusive language will result in no comment being made. MM, nor I care to continue entertaining the young and the reckless. With your renditions and jokes there are hundreds of blokes who are laughing cause they have stolen your Thunder!
um i hate to break it to the 2 of you, but your dumb atheist asses are vastly outnumber. :-o
 

The Potologist

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um i hate to break it to the 2 of you, but your dumb atheist asses are vastly outnumber. :-o
Um I hate to break it to you but I said this argument is over. Nobody cares what you have to say. Regardless, I am sure the atheist community can give a shit what you think, or that they are outnumbered! Your doing that thing again that makes you look mildly mentally retarded and positively ignorrant, FYI
 

mindphuk

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um i hate to break it to the 2 of you, but your dumb atheist asses are vastly outnumber. :-o
And this matters why? Do the number of people that believe something have any bearing on whether or not it's true? I guess Islam has more validity than Christianity because they have more believers, right?
It's ill advised for you to resort to attacking atheists by calling them dumb. It gives no credence to your position and makes you look petty and childish. Is that how your god wants you to behave toward other human beings?
 

igothydrotoneverywhere

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And this matters why? Do the number of people that believe something have any bearing on whether or not it's true? I guess Islam has more validity than Christianity because they have more believers, right?
It's ill advised for you to resort to attacking atheists by calling them dumb. It gives no credence to your position and makes you look petty and childish. Is that how your god wants you to behave toward other human beings?
that comment was in reference to his previous posts bro. why dont you read all the messages in the thread before you open your ignorant mouth and talk out of turn?
 

igothydrotoneverywhere

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Um I hate to break it to you but I said this argument is over. Nobody cares what you have to say. Regardless, I am sure the atheist community can give a shit what you think, or that they are outnumbered! Your doing that thing again that makes you look mildly mentally retarded and positively ignorrant, FYI
no, actually, every-time an atheist wants to come here and start i fire, i will come and stomp it out. count on it.
 

mindphuk

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that comment was in reference to his previous posts bro. why dont you read all the messages in the thread before you open your ignorant mouth and talk out of turn?
This is a public forum. There is no 'out of turn' as anyone can join in whenever the hell they want. If you want to limit responses to specific people, then use email or PM and stop treating this like it's your personal forum.
Either way, my question still stand. Why does being outnumbered matter in any significant way? And your childish insults still are no help to your position and exposes the weakness of your debate skills.
 

The Potologist

Active Member
no, actually, every-time an atheist wants to come here and start i fire, i will come and stomp it out. count on it.
Again, you have made it evident you have no bearing on what you are attempting to project. It has become even more clear that having even a basic conversation with some one of your decree is illogical, and perhaps not possible. I again resort to attempting to get a clear message to you. The most important line of my last post was " YOU ARE DOING THAT THING AGAIN THAT MAKES YOU LOOK MILDLY MENTALLY RETARDED AND POSITIVELY IGNORRANT! Furthermore, the atheist community can give a shit if you stomp until your legs fall off. Less you forget the post I stated " WITH YOUR RENDITIONS AND JOKES THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF BLOKES WHO LAUGHING CAUSE THEY HAVE STOLEN YOUR THUNDER"

This all in all does not surprise me. I guess christians need to re evaluate who they let in amoungst them. ALL THIS FROM A GUY WHO PICKS ON SCIENCE NERDS, WHILE POKING FUN OF AND NAME CALLING PEOPLE ALL IN THE ACT OF SPANKING SINGLE WHITE HOES( Check out Mixed Melodies new signature in previous post)......Yeah that sounds pretty neurotic and eccentric to say the least!!!! Again, I will give thanks on behalf of Mixed Melody for the awesome signature he got from a quote from you. Can you believe the guy has got 40 +reps because of his signature ( or your words in quotation)...Seems to be Hundreds of blokes still laughing at ya!!! I think its safe to just say your a christian in faith, but certianly NOT a christian in actions!

FYI, Kid Cudi and 2 Pac are not considered CHRISTIAN LIKE or CHRISTIAN MUSIC....I draw this from your post over in the Music Thread. ( I'll gladly quote, I can certianly go for a new signature to match Mixed Melodies) I am starting to get a better sense of validity into your immature and childish ways. Perhaps putting the head phones down and ending the renditions of a christian gangsta will give a better persona to the people of RIU :) but then again you could just start stabbin yourself to death! I have a prediction to uphold. Ive got a bet you will stab yourself to death before 2013....so DONT LET ME DOWN :)
 

The Potologist

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its your duty to fight for your rights of freedom, that includes knocking false idols off their pedestals, ahem, americas are known for that.

and this dude is posting something about jay-z, in the MUSIC forum. yall are all some serious haters. what is wrong with you people. comment on the topic, not the person starting the thread. jeez.

see, when I GET HIGH i think about ideas, not THINGS. this dude posted an IDEA/THEORY that my stoner ass found interesting. I can watch the videos and make a comment or i can not comment. or i can continue to do research on this topic, or i can say fuck it. but nowhere in there am i gonna attack this dude for posting some conspiracy theory.

If you want to go to the YES or NO area of the forum i suggest you move your asses over to the "what did i do wrong to my plants" forum.

stop hating. you cant even see your hate. its blinded you so much.
"STOP HATING.YOU CANT EVEN SEE YOUR HATE ITS BLINDED YOU SO MUCH"....Hey what do they call those people who give advice but do otherwise.....Damn, just cant think of it ....hmmmmm is it a HYPOCRITE??? or perhaps for the simple minded....LIAR....EITHER WAY ADHEAD TO YOUR OWN ADVICE...STOP HATING ON ATHEIST!!
 

undertheice

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Ive got a bet you will stab yourself to death before 2013....so DONT LET ME DOWN :)
i didn't know there was a pool going. can i get in on the action? i'd like to put a thousand dollars down on an unfortunate accident during erotic asphyxiation sometime in the latter half of 2011.:bigjoint:
 
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