Here it comes - gun control!!!

luckybleu · Dec 17, 2012

NoDrama said:
The main reason we have gun rights is not to go hunting or defend ourselves from a thief, but to defend ourselves from an out of control federal government. In that scenario we need high capacity magazines for every gun.

what is an assault rifle or a bunch of them going to do against an "out of control federal goverment" one press of a button and your position is history who the fuck are you going to fend off with an assault riffle really against an out of control military ??? drones with sidewinder missles ,bunker busting bombs tomahawk missles your a fucken fool if you think an assault riffle will help you.a pistol or shotgun to protect you, your property from intruders fine . Hunting weapons fine . But if you need a hundred rounds or even thirty to kill bambi you got no business picking up firearms to begin with. Defend your self from an out of control goverment get fuckin real that time has long passed like around 150 years ago ,your a fool and you talk out your ass

cannabineer · Dec 17, 2012

luckybleu said:
what is an assault rifle or a bunch of them going to do against an "out of control federal goverment" one press of a button and your position is history who the fuck are you going to fend off with an assault riffle really against an out of control military ??? drones with sidewinder missles ,bunker busting bombs tomahawk missles your a fucken fool if you think an assault riffle will help you.a pistol or shotgun to protect you, your property from intruders fine . Hunting weapons fine . But if you need a hundred rounds or even thirty to kill bambi you got no business picking up firearms to begin with. Defend your self from an out of control goverment get fuckin real that time has long passed like around 150 years ago ,your a fool and you talk out your ass

First of all, what assault weapon? Just because the fools in the media call semi-autos "assault weapons" to make them sound extra icky doesn't make them such. Not enough people look up the actual definition of an assault weapon; if they did, they'd penetrate the deception.

Also, what does Bambi have to do with anything? What gives you the right to decide the proper use of a gun? cn

NoDrama · Dec 17, 2012

luckybleu said:
what is an assault rifle or a bunch of them going to do against an "out of control federal goverment" one press of a button and your position is history who the fuck are you going to fend off with an assault riffle really against an out of control military ??? drones with sidewinder missles ,bunker busting bombs tomahawk missles your a fucken fool if you think an assault riffle will help you.a pistol or shotgun to protect you, your property from intruders fine . Hunting weapons fine . But if you need a hundred rounds or even thirty to kill bambi you got no business picking up firearms to begin with. Defend your self from an out of control goverment get fuckin real that time has long passed like around 150 years ago ,your a fool and you talk out your ass

LOL you think the military is going to use $80,000 missiles for each Citizen who doesn't give up their gun? IF the military is attacking its own people, how long do you think people will continue paying taxes? Where will the government get the money to pay the soldiers to kill their own people?

The expenses of just going door to door to confiscate guns would cost more than any other project government has ever endeavored to achieve.

How much combat time do you have in the military? What theaters of war have you been to?

I can make a pistol magazine change in less than .2 seconds, a rifle mag change in under .5 seconds. What good do you think reducing the magazine size is going to have on someone like me? Or anyone for that matter?

nontheist · Dec 17, 2012

luckybleu said:
what is an assault rifle or a bunch of them going to do against an "out of control federal goverment" one press of a button and your position is history who the fuck are you going to fend off with an assault riffle really against an out of control military ??? drones with sidewinder missles ,bunker busting bombs tomahawk missles your a fucken fool if you think an assault riffle will help you.a pistol or shotgun to protect you, your property from intruders fine . Hunting weapons fine . But if you need a hundred rounds or even thirty to kill bambi you got no business picking up firearms to begin with. Defend your self from an out of control goverment get fuckin real that time has long passed like around 150 years ago ,your a fool and you talk out your ass

Wavels · Dec 17, 2012

The drums are now beating for Gun Control, without any more of a definition than just that. Bottom line for me is that we are supposed to be a nation of laws not men. So we assume laws protect us. They protect us from other law abiding citizens, not from the lawless or the criminally insane as was the case recently. Connecticut has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the United States. Those laws did nothing to protect anyone. Other human beings tried and failed. All the kings laws and all the kings men cannot keep us from destroying ourselves all over again.

We have the God given right to protect ourselves from great bodily harm and, in my opinion with weapons of great force used with reason. The Connecticut massacre appears to be the result of the killer's mother being criminally negligent by allowing access for her mentally ill son to semi-automatic weapons. That is the lynchpin of the discussion, not more gun control. Perhaps it is a crime to leave guns unlocked or outside of a safe when there is a mentally ill adult around. It is criminal when one does so and a minor has access to a firearm. The same should be true for the mentally ill. If that is the"gun control" we are talking about, I am in!

wheels619 · Dec 17, 2012

NoDrama said:
Were talking about the federal government here, not states.

its the fed gov that is doin the paperwork to register them in ur name with ur address. some states do it electronically and u get ur firearms instantly. some states have a 10 day wait.

wheels619 · Dec 17, 2012

tomahawk2406 said:
jesus christ will you grow up

sounds grown up to me. sounds like u may be on the hippie side a bit.

DonPepe · Dec 17, 2012

Wavels said:
The drums are now beating for Gun Control, without any more of a definition than just that. Bottom line for me is that we are supposed to be a nation of laws not men. So we assume laws protect us. They protect us from other law abiding citizens, not from the lawless or the criminally insane as was the case recently. Connecticut has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the United States. Those laws did nothing to protect anyone. Other human beings tried and failed. All the kings laws and all the kings men cannot keep us from destroying ourselves all over again.

We have the God given right to protect ourselves from great bodily harm and, in my opinion with weapons of great force used with reason. The Connecticut massacre appears to be the result of the killer's mother being criminally negligent by allowing access for her mentally ill son to semi-automatic weapons. That is the lynchpin of the discussion, not more gun control. Perhaps it is a crime to leave guns unlocked or outside of a safe when there is a mentally ill adult around. It is criminal when one does so and a minor has access to a firearm. The same should be true for the mentally ill. If that is the"gun control" we are talking about, I am in!

i just wanted to bump this post for the wonderful amount for truth it contains.

NoDrama · Dec 17, 2012

wheels619 said:
its the fed gov that is doin the paperwork to register them in ur name with ur address. some states do it electronically and u get ur firearms instantly. some states have a 10 day wait.

Oh really? and all this time I thought there was a law that prohibited the federal government from registering weapons.

Oh look, there is a law.
Firearm Owners Protection Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

I buy 5-10 firearms a year, I never have to do paperwork on them and there isn't even a background check being done and none of the sellers even knows my first name. Totally legal. Nothing registered.

What you think is gun registration is a NICS check. Legally I do not need the FBI to check my background and can purchase new guns at the store without a NICS check.

Kite High · Dec 17, 2012

NoDrama said:
Oh really? and all this time I thought there was a law that prohibited the federal government from registering weapons.

Oh look, there is a law.
Firearm Owners Protection Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

I buy 5-10 firearms a year, I never have to do paperwork on them and there isn't even a background check being done and none of the sellers even knows my first name. Totally legal. Nothing registered.

as well it should be...gun control advocates miss the boat...it is NOT guns that kill it is the people...put resources into personal responsibility not wanting the GOVERNMENT to fix YOUR problem...have a friend or relative that is mentally ill? HELP THEM

wheels619 · Dec 17, 2012

NoDrama said:
LOL you think the military is going to use $80,000 missiles for each Citizen who doesn't give up their gun? IF the military is attacking its own people, how long do you think people will continue paying taxes? Where will the government get the money to pay the soldiers to kill their own people?

um we did it to insurgents in Afghanistan. one tow missile into a house or building and no soldiers die. well worth it at the time. whether they would do it to american citizens is another story. but remember governments have done worst to their people in the past. also it wouldnt be american troops going door to door. it would be u.n. troops.

Kite High · Dec 17, 2012

wheels619 said:
um we did it to insurgents in Afghanistan. one tow missile into a house or building and no soldiers die. well worth it at the time. whether they would do it to american citizens is another story. but remember governments have done worst to their people in the past. also it wouldnt be american troops going door to door. it would be u.n. troops.

oh yeah...the un troops....that is rich

NoDrama · Dec 17, 2012

wheels619 said:
it would be u.n. troops.

So in other words a tiny force that will easily be dispatched by the ratio of 2000 gun wielding Americans for each UN troop?

NoDrama · Dec 17, 2012

wheels619 said:
um we did it to insurgents in Afghanistan. one tow missile into a house or building and no soldiers die. well worth it at the time. whether they would do it to american citizens is another story. but remember governments have done worst to their people in the past.

Are you telling me that every single afghan enemy was taken out by a TOW missile for each one?

What military experience do you have again? You ARE talking from experience right, not just pulling this out of your ass?

luckybleu · Dec 17, 2012

cannabineer said:
First of all, what assault weapon? Just because the fools in the media call semi-autos "assault weapons" to make them sound extra icky doesn't make them such. Not enough people look up the actual definition of an assault weapon; if they did, they'd penetrate the deception.

Also, what does Bambi have to do with anything? What gives you the right to decide the proper use of a gun? cn

that fuckhead who shot those kids used a bushmaster ar 15 semi automatic rifle call it what the fuck you want and im sorry i even got started on this ,im just here about the weed,fuck guns fuck a zombie apocalypse

Grandpapy · Dec 17, 2012

wheels619 said:
um we did it to insurgents in Afghanistan. one tow missile into a house or building and no soldiers die. well worth it at the time. whether they would do it to american citizens is another story. but remember governments have done worst to their people in the past. also it wouldnt be american troops going door to door. it would be u.n. troops.

Cut off food and water, a few well placed missiles for affect, it wouldn't take long for law abiding citizens to comply.

NoDrama · Dec 17, 2012

Grandpapy said:
Cut off food and water, a few well placed missiles for affect, it wouldn't take long for law abiding citizens to comply.

Except it seems that many of the gun nuts are also preppers who store and stockpile food and water and the necessities to survive long periods with no operational support grid.

Grandpapy · Dec 17, 2012

NoDrama said:
Except it seems that many of the gun nuts are also preppers who store and stockpile food and water and the necessities to survive long periods with no operational support grid.

Once the food and water are restored, the media will report how "wonderful and safe life is now, and soon the few child killing weapon holders will be apprehended, Weather up next!"

tomahawk2406 · Dec 17, 2012

wheels619 said:
sounds grown up to me. sounds like u may be on the hippie side a bit.

wheels619 said:
if obama had his way everything would be banned. children cant even play outside in a front yard without the parents being harassed by the cops now and days becuz obama feels our children should be watched 24 hours a day and should never be left alone... kinda sad really.

don't need any comments from you, your an idiot

tomahawk2406 · Dec 17, 2012

NoDrama said:
I believe Jesus Christ is dead, and I am pretty sure he was full grown at the time.

you don't need high capacity magazines. bottom line. go take from lessons wheels because he's a good such a good shot. you have bigger things to worry about than a fucking government takeover. get real.

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