How much do you think I can yield dry with my setup. (First time Grower)

Would 400 Grams dry/smokeable per plant be an asanine amount to hope for?

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HydoDan

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I live in Colorado, I go to grows very often, both legal and illegal. Serious high-volume grows are almost exclusively HID. My opinion on LEDs aside, something tells me if these people could save $5k or $15k a month on their power bills and get the same result they wouldd have switchedd a long ass time ago.

I don't hate LEDs, I use them myself as supplemental lighting. But to grow exclusively with LED and pretend you are getting the same weight as you would with HID is silly.

I only run 8 bulbs myself so forget about what I say, look at the people running 100 bulbs or 200 bulbs. You think they just woke up and said "I know LEDs are better on heat, ventilation, cost half as much to run in power consumption, and produce the same result...but you know what? Fucking YOLO! I'm going to run HID anyway because the power company deserves that extra $25,000 of my money every month! Come on.
It is new technology!!In three years you will see what I mean.. more efficient lights will win out.. they are here to make money not support utility companies..
 

Chorse

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It is new technology!!In three years you will see what I mean.. more efficient lights will win out.. they are here to make money not support utility companies..
While I do not doubt its eventuality, they have been making this same prediction for over 3 years already. Current bottom line is a decent 1000w HPS system can be had for less than $300 while the equivalent LED seems to still price out at something greater than $1000. I recently read somewhere that 7 years is the point you start turning the tide. So yeah, if I were starting a commercial grow and looking at startup costs, I think I certainly would still go HPS.
 

tusseltussel

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Reeling it in. The op still has a 400w hps in a 4x4 room which is a little underpowered. Definitely not going to see 400g per plant and probably be closer to 400g total. I stand by what I said about just getting a 600w and running it hard with 6 plants. Yall could argue about leds for days and have been but it doesn't help anything
 

Chorse

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Reeling it in. The op still has a 400w hps in a 4x4 room which is a little underpowered. Definitely not going to see 400g per plant and probably be closer to 400g total. I stand by what I said about just getting a 600w and running it hard with 6 plants. Yall could argue about leds for days and have been but it doesn't help anything
Ha! I missed the "per plant" part.
OP, NO! You will never get 400g per plant with your set up.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i have a tent close to that size, 30x 60 , have a 400 hps on one side and a decent 200 watt led on the other side that actually puts out more light than my hps. i would recommend you not try to cram more hid lighting in that space, i had 2 400s, way too hot, tried a 400 and a 250, still too hot, so i went with the led, and now when i can afford it, i'm going to replace the hps with another led and then i can get rid of my exhaust fan and ducting
don't expect to harvest pounds your first grow or two, but it all comes with a little time.
p.s., getting about 100 grams dry per plant on average, 4 to 5 plants at a time in the tent. some uber growers may pull more out of a 400 but from what i've been reading thats about average
 
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iBurnStuff

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I'm not a big fan of doing multiple strains in one tent. Tents are great but if your canopy isn't even, you aren't really utilizing your full grow space. Not to mention flowering times can be different as well which adds a whole slew of rotation issues in the mix. But to answer your question 400 grams out of the 6 plants is doable for sure so long as you dial in your climate well and keep your plants fed. Each plants nutrients needs can be different so running one rez will come back to bite you. Maybe look in to making some diy DWC buckets for each plant or going with a soilless mix in smart pots so you can keep up with each plants needs. If you have the money to upgrade your light to a 600w that would be a good investment. More usable light to your plants more you get back from them. Good luck bud :bigjoint:
 

tusseltussel

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i have a tent close to that size, 30x 60 , have a 400 hps on one side and a decent 200 watt led on the other side that actually puts out more light than my hps. i would recommend you not try to cram more hid lighting in that space, i had 2 400s, way too hot, tried a 400 and a 250, still too hot, so i went with the led, and now when i can afford it, i'm going to replace the hps with another led and then i can get rid of my exhaust fan and ducting
don't expect to harvest pounds your first grow or two, but it all comes with a little time.
p.s., getting about 100 grams dry per plant on average, 4 to 5 plants at a time in the tent. some uber growers may pull more out of a 400 but from what i've been reading thats about average
I'd like to hear more about this 200 led?
Oh and the plant still need fresh air. Heat isn't the only reason we run fans. Oxygen builds up in our rooms that our plants produce
 
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Michiganjesse

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are we really stomping all over this nice newbies thread where he is asking for help?,,, and turning it into another "Light hashing thread",,, come on guys
Nice i just read thread start to yours thanks for stepping in. But my sunshine is brighter than yours. Wahaha
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I'd like to hear more about this 200 led?
Oh and the plant still need fresh air. Heat isn't the only reason we run fans. Oxygen builds up in our rooms that our plants produce
its this light, its not a cob but i had an electrical engineer friend that builds lights look at it, its well worth the money.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J19ADTI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
my 400 watt hps at 16 inches produces 50k lux, this light produces 70k, and its cool to the touch, produces almost no heat, and seems to be penetrating just as far down into the canopy.
i plan to get a 200 watt cob setup to replace my 400 watt hps as soon as possible.
and i'm aware of the importance of ventilation, but if i'm not concerned about heat, a 100 cfm fan is plenty, i can get rid of the 6 inch inline fan and vent my filter into the room instead of outside
 

RIGUY80

New Member
I gotta say a cpl a things on this.
This is what I'm doing now because of this thread. Thanks
I did suggest a COBB kit as well as the HID package I listed - didn't see he was height restricted=my bad.
I'll go with building the COBB's!

No AC is your choice. Add some and improve or go COBB!

Grams per watt is a meaningless way to judge growing! With the right style of grow, area size, lighting and of course strain. I've done over 3gpw several times.
If your wise, 1lb under a 400 is possible...
 

Dr. Who

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Reeling it in. The op still has a 400w hps in a 4x4 room which is a little underpowered. Definitely not going to see 400g per plant and probably be closer to 400g total. I stand by what I said about just getting a 600w and running it hard with 6 plants. Yall could argue about leds for days and have been but it doesn't help anything
Hmm, think I missed something......He said "per plant"? NOT happening !!!!! The pound total, can happen.....

The rest,,,pretty much spot on! I agree..
 

tusseltussel

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Hmm, think I missed something......He said "per plant"? NOT happening !!!!! The pound total, can happen.....

The rest,,,pretty much spot on! I aagree gree..
the poll at the top of the page says 400g per plant lol. 6 plants 2.5-3 oz per plant totally doable but I still think a 400w is a little underpowered. Tent grows don't give you the hight you need imo. You got a light hanging .5 down from the top, your plants 1' away from your light, your pots takes up a foot on the floor and we're talkin hydro too so that may be 2 feet depending on your set up. So you're almost at 4 feet without any plant in there then you got a 2 foot plant, that's tight for me but I like to grow big plants, they produce more.
 
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