Boru420
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i think i was reading that post earlier.
I was a sports injury therapist / personal trainer for 11 years
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Wattzzup
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Hopefully
Jeffislovinlife
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It is the only way I am up and walking today worked it for 6 mouths on my bed so I can say it worked for me as always thank you for your time and the best of luck in all of your endeavors
Wizzlebiz
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Thats correct.
Wattzzup
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That’s a good idea too. That way you’re planning your dinners/meals.
Wizzlebiz
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Ya shouldn't jump to conclusions. It causes unnecessary issues.
Wizzlebiz
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Of course no 2 people are the same. Different people have different hormone levels and fluctuations that cause plenty of imbalances just like your describing.
Not to mention. Blood type, fitness level, and many other important factors. No one diet is absolutely ideal for the entire human population.
Wattzzup
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Doug Dawson
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That is true. I would not suggest anyone live off the beef jerky and whiskey diet I used on my last bush trip. Well that and some roasted squirrel.
Wizzlebiz
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I've trained like that as well. But it was in preparation to go to an all inclusive resort in Mexico.
I needed my alcohol tolerance up and my stomach made of steel. Gotta be able to eat like a tiger shark when I'm all inclusive. Anything and everything haha.
ElGrandeMongo
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Hey buddy,
I'm in my late 20s and with this whole lockdown thing I've been inactive for an extended period of time. Not the first time I've done this to myself, but each time I've gotten myself back on track were due to extreme bursts of motivation, where I was willing to endure extreme pain for weeks at a time to get myself back into the swing of things. I trained wrestling, boxing & kickboxing for years when I was a teenager, and that was my go to each time I'd try to get back in shape. Never had any issues because I was super active in my youth, and somehow managed to avoid serious injuries through years of wrestling, boxing, kickboxing etc.
Anyways, what I've found and from talking to those around me over the past few years at the various gyms I've trained at, is the way I describe my DOMS is definitely not normal. I'm so sore and stiff the 2nd day after a workout, that I can barely shampoo my head, bend my legs, twist my body, put on shoes etc. Sometimes even driving becomes an excruciating task. I would end smoking multiple bowls, taking two tylenol, and a caffeine tablet just before heading out to the gym in a state that I could not be screaming in pain through the first parts of the workout. Once warmed up I seemed to be able to get through it, but of course I always felt drained and fighting brain fog... Also starts to become a feat just to get myself there since my starting point is extreme pain.
Tried getting extra rest in between workouts, gradually increasing the workouts per week, increasing stretching, using foam rollers, lacrosse balls, hot baths, cold baths, epsom salt baths, and so on... The extreme muscle soreness and stiffness persisted last time even after 4 months of regular training last time. Also persisted the time before that where I thought I might be able to avoid the amount of pain by starting a jogging routine.
Areas that seem to be the most effected
#1 CALF MUSCLES -- when jogging or jumping rope, my calf muscles feel like they're going to explode... It literally feels like there's a rock solid mass underneath my calf muscle up against my bone, which grows the more I work trying to tear its way out of my leg.
#2 NECK MUSCLES -- I end up looking like someone with chronic arthritis in their neck. I have to turn my whole upper body to look left/right (seems to be just from tensing up when throwing punches in boxing)
#3 Chest/Shoulder muscles -- can barely put on a jacket, drive, shampoo and all that good stuff for the entire week after a heavy bag workout. Again, even after months of regular workouts, issue doesn't seem to resolve.
I guess what I'm asking is anything you can think of that may cause this other than long lengths of not putting my body through the work? Anything I can do to reduce DOMS that work? I'm not extremely fat, could still probably pound out a 5k run after nearly a year of NO workouts, without dying of exertion, although the entire remainder of the week would be a writeoff, due to what I'm describing above. I'm finding that all of what I'm describing above is inhibiting my ability to improve as the excruciating pain chips at my willpower day after day.
Is it possible that I'm overdoing it every single workout? I do always have in the back of my mind that I'm doing each step of the workout too slowly, without enough power, or my technique is lacking. Could I be trying to set the pace for myself based on my past self, who was younger, faster, lighter, and much better conditioned?
Sorry for the long post -- figured I saw an opportunity for good information and will shoot my shot!
I'm in my late 20s and with this whole lockdown thing I've been inactive for an extended period of time. Not the first time I've done this to myself, but each time I've gotten myself back on track were due to extreme bursts of motivation, where I was willing to endure extreme pain for weeks at a time to get myself back into the swing of things. I trained wrestling, boxing & kickboxing for years when I was a teenager, and that was my go to each time I'd try to get back in shape. Never had any issues because I was super active in my youth, and somehow managed to avoid serious injuries through years of wrestling, boxing, kickboxing etc.
Anyways, what I've found and from talking to those around me over the past few years at the various gyms I've trained at, is the way I describe my DOMS is definitely not normal. I'm so sore and stiff the 2nd day after a workout, that I can barely shampoo my head, bend my legs, twist my body, put on shoes etc. Sometimes even driving becomes an excruciating task. I would end smoking multiple bowls, taking two tylenol, and a caffeine tablet just before heading out to the gym in a state that I could not be screaming in pain through the first parts of the workout. Once warmed up I seemed to be able to get through it, but of course I always felt drained and fighting brain fog... Also starts to become a feat just to get myself there since my starting point is extreme pain.
Tried getting extra rest in between workouts, gradually increasing the workouts per week, increasing stretching, using foam rollers, lacrosse balls, hot baths, cold baths, epsom salt baths, and so on... The extreme muscle soreness and stiffness persisted last time even after 4 months of regular training last time. Also persisted the time before that where I thought I might be able to avoid the amount of pain by starting a jogging routine.
Areas that seem to be the most effected
#1 CALF MUSCLES -- when jogging or jumping rope, my calf muscles feel like they're going to explode... It literally feels like there's a rock solid mass underneath my calf muscle up against my bone, which grows the more I work trying to tear its way out of my leg.
#2 NECK MUSCLES -- I end up looking like someone with chronic arthritis in their neck. I have to turn my whole upper body to look left/right (seems to be just from tensing up when throwing punches in boxing)
#3 Chest/Shoulder muscles -- can barely put on a jacket, drive, shampoo and all that good stuff for the entire week after a heavy bag workout. Again, even after months of regular workouts, issue doesn't seem to resolve.
I guess what I'm asking is anything you can think of that may cause this other than long lengths of not putting my body through the work? Anything I can do to reduce DOMS that work? I'm not extremely fat, could still probably pound out a 5k run after nearly a year of NO workouts, without dying of exertion, although the entire remainder of the week would be a writeoff, due to what I'm describing above. I'm finding that all of what I'm describing above is inhibiting my ability to improve as the excruciating pain chips at my willpower day after day.
Is it possible that I'm overdoing it every single workout? I do always have in the back of my mind that I'm doing each step of the workout too slowly, without enough power, or my technique is lacking. Could I be trying to set the pace for myself based on my past self, who was younger, faster, lighter, and much better conditioned?
Sorry for the long post -- figured I saw an opportunity for good information and will shoot my shot!
Wizzlebiz
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The pain your describing is not typical after months of working out.
The on and off thing might be a contributing factor but after a couple weeks that should subside.
Is it muscular or is it ligaments and tendons?
I ask this because muscles recover a whole lot faster than the ligaments and tendons. So if your muscles are healing and your putting more stress onto the tendons and ligaments before they can heal you can be causing this feeling workout after workout.
When I cant move my arms its not the muscle that stops me. Yes the muscle hurt but its the ligaments and tendons that we are trying to stretch out when we can't straighten our arms.
Essentially you might be over doing it not for the muscles but for the other moving parts.
Do you see muscular gains after months of training? This is an important question that needs an answer. It will help define some of the issue.
Another option is diet once again. If you dont give your body what it needs to fuel properly but to heal properly, you cause damages that cant be repaired before the next workout.
One last possible option which is bad is beginning stages of fibromyalgia. I hope that's not the case.
Good chance it is a tendon training issue.
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ElGrandeMongo
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Mostly muscular. And it can get so bad it'll feel like a deep bruise if touched, on top of the normal exerted muscle feeling you'd expect from DOMS. I might get some ligament pain if I lift weights, but that's usually only the first few workouts, and definitely because I'm going heavier than I should off the bat.
Diet admittedly is not great, but would never be short on protein. I enjoy my burgers/wings/steak for sure. Eat a decent amount of vegetables. I don't seem to have issue putting on muscle. I'm fairly muscular and tbh I would say I seem to lose muscle mass really slowly... I just get softer and heavier as I put on my fat layers lmao.
Wizzlebiz
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ElGrandeMongo
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Anything endurance based seems to be excruciating. Even when I was out jogging/running I was having a really hard time adding distance. Could improve my time but I found I was just about doubled over from pain at the same spot every day. Same with boxing/kickboxing. I learn to bear, but I feel like muscle recovery is so slow, I'm permanently coming into it feeling like I can maybe put in 20% of what I'd expect from myself.
Wizzlebiz
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How many days a week?
From your statement it seems the soreness is getting worse as the days activities progress yes?
mistergrafik
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DO NOT DO THIS. lol