jeepster1993
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Timber Grow lights. I can't find where it says it now but I did read that they tested their lights without the reflectors they still show on their lights and it turned out the readings were better without so now they sell them without. For all I know it's something specific but your pic reminder me of it.
"Please note, reflectors as shown are no longer available. Recent integrated sphere testing has shown a loss of almost 8-10% in PAR wattage using the reflectors vs not. Additionally, the light is able to be operated closer to the canopy with even PAR spread."
This is what was said
This is what was said
GiveMeKnowledge
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I think that’s a cover up for the fact their cobs practically melt the reflectors and when you try to get them off they shatter into a million bits all over your plants.
jeepster1993
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"they" are saying 10% of the light is absorbed by the reflectors?
I have a light meter and it does not show a 10% rise when the hoods are removed.
10%..
jeepster1993
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Not saying anything against you. You are not they-Timber. I will type Timber from now on.
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The Dawg
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I Have Been Running Vero29 Gen 1 Cob's For 5 Years Now And Never I Said Never Had 1 Melt Or Break Off Into a Million Pieces Never.
The Dawg
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Gawd The Level Of Dumb Ass Is High Tonight. Tell Me How Are You Going To Measure A Frequency With A Wavelength Meter? Timber States That The 10% Gained Was Par Wattage Which Is Measured In Joules Not Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density (PPFD). To Accurately Measure Par Wattage One Needs To Have Access To A Integrating Sphere Or You Could Just Do The Math Converting A Wavelength To A Frequency. First E=hf Where E Is The Energy Of The Photon In Joules h Is Planck's Constant ( 6.63* 10^-34 Joules) And f Is The Frequency Of The Light In Hertz
GiveMeKnowledge
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I have.I Have Been Running Vero29 Gen 1 Cob's For 5 Years Now And Never I Said Never Had 1 Melt Or Break Off Into a Million Pieces Never.
GiveMeKnowledge
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I Have Been Running Vero29 Gen 1 Cob's For 5 Years Now And Never I Said Never Had 1 Melt Or Break Off Into a Million Pieces Never.
The Dawg
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Did You Think To Get A Hold Of Timber To Find Out Whats Happening? I Did And Get This The Owner Answer's His Own Phone And Explained Whats Happening And Also They Have A Fix For The Reflector Adapter Which Is To Simply Remove The Adapter And Affix The Cob To The Heatsink. The Cause Is Theirs Too Much Photon Energy Being Produced At The Base Of The Cob Causing A Initial Heat Issues. Ledil Is Aware Of This Design Flaw And Are Working On It. My Next Question Is Why My Timber Didn't Have This Issue And Apparently Their's Only A Hand Growers Having This Issues. 
Right? I ripped everything to various digital media and backups so I really dont need them. They do work wonders for raising nd lowering plants.
Kyzersozay
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I went from this, to these under noah-s 1000w off amazon for 90$ cad, its in a 1m x1m 2m tent, its cheap the yeild is decent, no complaints
GreenDave123
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Here’s my Old School hazy Jones 
GreenDave123
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Sorry
This was under my Blackdog 700u
This was under my Blackdog 700u
So I read that led has almost zero ir so I would have to have temps at 82 and got smaller 4 inch fans. Well these lights raise the temps by 15 degrees and now I’m. It sure the fans will keep up. It’s those plastic temp controlled ones advertised on here
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