Life in occupied Palestine.
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Harrekin
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In fairness, the Koran's verses are more "manipulated" towards violence by radical Islamists than by any anti-Islam person in the West.
abandonconflict
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Doer
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No way, you and someone were posting verses, dueling Koran, hiding in complexity. I'm against all Religion. And don't get me started. I'll slander all these black hearted, emotional masturbation societies called organized Religion. I especially hate the Western Abrahamic triad. But, the Eastern Aryan-LauTsu triad in practice is equally black hearted.
I despise them because of this idea of blaspheme. I'll slander who I want and how I want. I puke at this idea of Sin/Guilt/Heaven/Hell.
So, in my equal hate I am alert to the various passages of LIES used across time and space to justify violence in the various cultures.
YOU, as a show of peace,. posted this. This is the main one used to justify slaughter and maiming under Sharia. YOU are supporting religious freedom when this persecution of Jews was the main cover story for this preposterous religion called Christianity. For 2000 years, the main institution, the Holy Church of Rome, has been systematically anti-semitic and still is.
About 600 years after that after, the warlike bullshit Way, congealed, the world didn't end. But, this apocalyptic religion of Christ had already murdered countless 'pagans" and burned the library at Alexander. The most intolerant force in existence. It still is.
Except the high crime of it all caused another idea. Hey a burning bush, all these miracles in their book, but no end of the world. What do you know? Powerful stuff. Kicked Rome's ass.
Lo and behold, The angel David came in through the window and whisked Mohammed (all glory be unto him) off for special knowledge.
(Kill Christians and Jews if they don't convert to this new Abraham based religion.)
And what now? The same story with the 4th horse. Mormon. It's crafted rather recently and Smith had a visit from the angel Maroni. Special knowledge, lost tablets of gold. The entire Book seanced thru the bottom of a felt hat with a crystal in it.
All religion is war. It is born or war and is the man's hubris and black heart to say, "god" or "bubblegum" etc is on our side. Childish and vicious.
They are all like this. Conquest excuse, nothing more. And, btw, Smok, all these scripture LIES have instigating violence on innocents on one page and all the goo-goo it takes to fool people on the next.
Go read the Hindu Gita, for a big dose of that. I think so little of religion and so well versed in the Lies, I could pass for or convert to anything.
These religions are fear based, power structures. I fear not. Nor do I cower before Islam.
EDIT: I'm glad I realized I can ignore the worthless trolls. Good feature that.
abandonconflict
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Except for when you shill the nonsecular Israeli state's victim card.
smok3y1
Active Member
The thing is the radicals hardly need to post verses to radicalize others instead to talk about the occupation and murder of Muslims is what causes it. There is plenty of videos on Youtube that show this. People don't like to sit back and watch their brothers in faith murdered and oppressed because of land and resources. If the US wasn't hell bent on global domination which has killed millions then there wouldn't be hatred for them. An example is when you look at the Middle East view of the US before WW2 which was a positive view.
Doer
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I totally agree with all that. But, the one little mistake is trying to blame we who won that War on the hatred and unrest it caused. These forces of extermination were set loose, I'll grant, by Catholicism. The Dark Ages are very dark, indeed, in this particular corner. But, we can't say we caused antisemitism in the world, we are Protestant or Church of England. We too have been persecuted by Rome's ideas of Power.
And we can't say we did anything but agree to the partitioning of the Mandate. The British were the occupiers of the Palestinian territories.
Then the terrorists bombed a big hotel that was the Military Headquarters, and the British bugged out. (hey, that works!)
Isreal formed itself from war, after war and in war. There will be another soon. A 4th mini-hell in a fishbowl of religious intolerance.
The Brits bugged out, and the Mandate expired. Ben-Guron declared a State of Isreal. But, no, the damage from the Gestapo was too deep, the animosity over, weird everything propaganda (and not the USA,) was too strong.
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The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandate Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War;[SUP][80][/SUP][SUP][81][/SUP] Saudi Arabia sent a military contingent to operate under Egyptian command;
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So, beyond manging to delay the extinction protocols began by the Totalitarians, of a UN recognized State by these Arab players, we support them. The foundations of the Religions are there. They were given the place, not by us, by Brittan. And they didn't force the British out. The Crown was disgusted over the hatred fanned by the Nazi.
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In 1947, the British government announced it would withdraw from Mandatory Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.
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Really what have we done? We propped up dictators? Yes. That was to rein in on the extermination of Jews. It is so easy to just float on the simple hate America. But, so far it's worked. The Jews are still there and they are still fighting for their lives. Suddenly, after all this, we make them the bad guys? More antisemitism?
It's ugly. We can wring our hand and blame ourselves for the world's problems. It just isn't so. We have to intervene a bit or be plowed under. France and England do that, also.
We have enemies so we can protect our friends. Very simple.
And we can't say we did anything but agree to the partitioning of the Mandate. The British were the occupiers of the Palestinian territories.
Then the terrorists bombed a big hotel that was the Military Headquarters, and the British bugged out. (hey, that works!)
Isreal formed itself from war, after war and in war. There will be another soon. A 4th mini-hell in a fishbowl of religious intolerance.
The Brits bugged out, and the Mandate expired. Ben-Guron declared a State of Isreal. But, no, the damage from the Gestapo was too deep, the animosity over, weird everything propaganda (and not the USA,) was too strong.
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The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandate Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War;[SUP][80][/SUP][SUP][81][/SUP] Saudi Arabia sent a military contingent to operate under Egyptian command;
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So, beyond manging to delay the extinction protocols began by the Totalitarians, of a UN recognized State by these Arab players, we support them. The foundations of the Religions are there. They were given the place, not by us, by Brittan. And they didn't force the British out. The Crown was disgusted over the hatred fanned by the Nazi.
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In 1947, the British government announced it would withdraw from Mandatory Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.
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Really what have we done? We propped up dictators? Yes. That was to rein in on the extermination of Jews. It is so easy to just float on the simple hate America. But, so far it's worked. The Jews are still there and they are still fighting for their lives. Suddenly, after all this, we make them the bad guys? More antisemitism?
It's ugly. We can wring our hand and blame ourselves for the world's problems. It just isn't so. We have to intervene a bit or be plowed under. France and England do that, also.
We have enemies so we can protect our friends. Very simple.
abandonconflict
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You're the only one talking about Jews.
I'm criticizing Zionism.
You are the one criticizing Muslims in your defense of what you perceive as criticism of Jews.
Zionism is to blame for repression now.
Kite High
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so apparently you feel Hitler was stopped too soon
deprave
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I believe hamas was actually started by Israel, which leads to believe they are still funded by them, I mean only a government created organization is ever openly being racists, thats a form of propaganda. Regardless, If one is racist why should the others suffer, for example because Cheesus is a racist we aren't declaring that all white people should be put up in concentration camps and executed now are we? Of course not that would be ridiculous! But wait a minute isn't that the Zionist argument in defense of their actions? Indeed it is, that arabs are scum of the earth racist, every last one of them, who deserve the slaughter. Oh wait isn't THAT racist? Yes...Yes it is..
Doer
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Come ON!
If this has any importance at all, it deserves the truth. You are a sympathiser. Anti-zionist. You aplogize for Hamas by blaming Iseal? Grip up! I know you don't care. But, do you intend to be a willing propgandist?
Just look shit up, if you don't know, OK?
The History of Hamas is an account of the Palestinian Islamist[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] fundamentalist[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] socio-political organization with an associated paramilitary force, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Hamas (حماس
Ḥamās is an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamat al-Islāmiyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement".
Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypts Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s and gained influence through a network of mosques and various charitable and social organizations. In the 1980s the Brotherhood emerged as a powerful political factor, challenging the influence of the PLO,[5
If this has any importance at all, it deserves the truth. You are a sympathiser. Anti-zionist. You aplogize for Hamas by blaming Iseal? Grip up! I know you don't care. But, do you intend to be a willing propgandist?
Just look shit up, if you don't know, OK?
The History of Hamas is an account of the Palestinian Islamist[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] fundamentalist[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] socio-political organization with an associated paramilitary force, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Hamas (حماس
Ḥamās is an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamat al-Islāmiyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement".Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypts Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s and gained influence through a network of mosques and various charitable and social organizations. In the 1980s the Brotherhood emerged as a powerful political factor, challenging the influence of the PLO,[5
Doer
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And deprave, this has nothing to do with racism. There is no race of Jews. They are a tribe of man, not a race. There is no race called Palestinian...it's a sister tribe of the Jews.
So, all this race bait is but a low brow simplicity. We know about extermination protocols. We know that Arabs are set agaisnt Jews for religion and Gestapo. And since your logic has failed about who started Hamas, the rest of your post is meaningless. In good consciousness, how about deleting your post?
So, all this race bait is but a low brow simplicity. We know about extermination protocols. We know that Arabs are set agaisnt Jews for religion and Gestapo. And since your logic has failed about who started Hamas, the rest of your post is meaningless. In good consciousness, how about deleting your post?
Doer
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It's what the neutron bomb is for and you can take Zion along with it, for all I care.
deprave
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.htmlCome ON!
If this has any importance at all, it deserves the truth. You are a sympathiser. Anti-zionist. You aplogize for Hamas by blaming Iseal? Grip up! I know you don't care. But, do you intend to be a willing propgandist?
Just look shit up, if you don't know, OK?
The History of Hamas is an account of the Palestinian Islamist[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] fundamentalist[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] socio-political organization with an associated paramilitary force, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Hamas (حماس
Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypts Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s and gained influence through a network of mosques and various charitable and social organizations. In the 1980s the Brotherhood emerged as a powerful political factor, challenging the influence of the PLO,[5
"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades.
Doer
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Dude, give up. Someone opining, an Anti-Zionist, that Hamas is a monster unleashed by Israel, fine. I imagine he other opinions, also. But, it is a far cry to say Israel set it up and continues to fund this nightmare.
It's a word play. Not created, he is saying Israel caused it. I say Hitler caused it. I say the Catholic Church enabled the Reich in thought word and deed.
You said they fund it. Nice tap dance.
Please don't quote these Nay bobs and say it means something else.
It's a word play. Not created, he is saying Israel caused it. I say Hitler caused it. I say the Catholic Church enabled the Reich in thought word and deed.
You said they fund it. Nice tap dance.
Please don't quote these Nay bobs and say it means something else.
abandonconflict
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No, actually, criticizing Zionism is not antisemitic.
echelon1k1
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Deprave posted a link to a decent article - NOT a link to WIKI which can be edited by anyone. Wiki does not even pass for a source in high school - try again
Kite High
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you're world is always so unique
echelon1k1
New Member
Again WIKI is not a source and the version it presents is vastly lacking in any detail. The creation of Hamas was aided and supported by Mossad but you won't read it on Wiki champ.Come ON!
If this has any importance at all, it deserves the truth. You are a sympathiser. Anti-zionist. You aplogize for Hamas by blaming Iseal? Grip up! I know you don't care. But, do you intend to be a willing propgandist?
Just look shit up, if you don't know, OK?
The History of Hamas is an account of the Palestinian Islamist[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] fundamentalist[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] socio-political organization with an associated paramilitary force, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Hamas (حماس
Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s and gained influence through a network of mosques and various charitable and social organizations. In the 1980s the Brotherhood emerged as a powerful political factor, challenging the influence of the PLO,[5
The Yassin model has worked well so well, in fact, they've pulled out the playbook and tried it again in Libya with Belhadj