Maverick’s Timber 4vs Grow Journal

LCPGrower1980

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Into the second week of Flower already (tomorrow will be day 14) and the girls are already starting to form their flowers. Will have to go back and look through my pictures from last grow, but at least to my eyes it looks like I may not get as much stretch out of the Lambsbread this time around. Unsure of that is due to the Schwazzing, or whether it’s a function of her having been in the 3 gallon for longer and therefore not having as much room to grow her roots once I flipped her.

Will be interesting to see if she continues to stretch over the next coming weeks or whether she is done and will only work on packing weight onto her colas. The Jamaican Shipwreck is also giving her a run for her money atm and it will be fun to see how much she stretches when all is said and done.

Attached are a couple pics from Day 7. Will post some pics of Day 14 tomorrow.C541ED63-8DAB-46D2-8A7D-E6654C472F9D.jpegA196BA59-591F-48AF-8C8F-CF7BF3F16F2A.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Few pictures from today, Day 14 of Flower.

Observations:

-First the plants look happy and healthy. See a few lower nodes on a few colas that have stretched pretty significantly and I am debating whether to cut them off now and try to get the plant to put all of its energy into the main cola or hope that they simply wind up creating a wider base to the colas (which I’ve seen before).

-Speaking of stretching, I am seeing some significant stretching occurring in the last few days. Wondering if maybe the Schwazzing delayed their stretch and I’m going to see it now.

-Definitely will need to do a second Schwazzing on Day 21 (could maybe even do it earlier, but I also think the longer into Flower it takes them to rebound the better as the canopy is getting crazy thick. Might even have to do a third “strip“ in Week 5 (though less severe) which I’ve seen people do with especially dense canopies.

Feel free to drop a comment below if you are a regular Schwazzer and have noticed a delayed stretch or if you like to defoliate later into Flower and feel it’s helpful.

Hope everyone is staying safe out there.E0D80C09-E61E-4ED0-9310-76B9E7BE146F.jpeg50929053-1380-4FFF-ACE1-D9F9553406AE.jpeg127616A8-CB1E-4129-BED7-4F9680F8545C.jpegCFC98048-87DF-43F3-A167-DB7FB14720D4.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Day 21 of Flower. Canopy was crazy dense on most of the plants so I decided to go ahead and strip/Schwazz them as planned.

First three pictures are “before” and 4-6 are “after”.

Much, much better light penetration and air circulation now. Almost wish they wouldn’t grow back as it’s so much easier to fit them in the tent like this and ensure that all the colas get sufficient light, but I know they will.BB21DDBF-9BC5-48A5-8E12-7921929D533F.jpeg51B2AD38-765E-426F-94F4-FB03BF90B88C.jpeg06A68B4F-CD67-4B61-B2ED-9ACD99CF2AC4.jpeg3A41734A-4C08-4AAE-8D72-F8A0B2C96D3C.jpeg00B7183A-E34F-4E47-BA73-442FE293380F.jpeg5046676F-019B-43D1-BF4D-4068994CBD57.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Day 28 of Flower update.

Plants are starting to put weight on their flowers. Looks like the Jamaican Shipwreck might be the big girl this time around. She looks like she’s got the genetics to make some big ole colas.

Still another 3-4 weeks to go on even the earliest plants (maybe up to 7-8 more on the Acapulco and Mazar depending on the pheno), so should see lots more size put on these flowers as they weeks go on. Just hope I can keep this damn PM I’ve been battling at bay.66FCCD88-2C6F-4E09-8124-7EA9D3C17386.jpeg83CB35F3-E48E-474E-80D7-38BB22BC1C4E.jpeg7599F1DA-6D95-4EFF-BD35-33627816A557.jpeg709F1E1E-FBFB-499D-938E-17FA9AA6264A.jpeg012DACEC-F8BA-435A-8B97-A7B10485D101.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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1/2 way through Week 5 of Flower (Day 32 of Flower) update.

Decided to move the girls around since I’m pretty sure the Lambsbread and Skunk will be the first to finish. Also decided to prop the Skunk and Dinamed up even a little higher so I can get them closer to the light. In hindsight probably should have done done it at the start of Flower, but will just mark it down to experience and use it next time around.

Lambsbread is getting very frosty too! Still got another week and a half to 2 weeks on her; excited to see how she turns out this time around!431A46B2-1228-4E0D-918C-F31940B31E79.jpegA7B646C1-A9BF-47BC-A13D-A36215A165B8.jpeg4E951B41-9974-449D-87E9-1CFB0C269440.jpeg9A4CF212-D301-4383-AE6E-8E03B88E60B2.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Day 35 of Flower (end of Week 5) update.

Raised the Skunk and Dinamed up one more time to get them even closer to the light and they have responded by fattening up.

Lambsbread continues to get frostier every day and continues to fill in her flowers.

Jamaican Shipwreck continues to impress me. She is gonna have some soda can colas! Starting to get frosty as well.

Everything else looks healthy. Can’t wait to see how they all look in another 2+ weeks!8D7CD3EC-C894-45B4-8C94-FDCEB35FCAE9.jpeg68221EAD-D790-44C7-9375-13779003027B.jpeg14B0BD33-2E6D-47E2-B524-3C9E44ED36EA.jpegBC4386CC-8902-448A-B0AB-B0105CEA8C55.jpeg3F205D51-0012-4A13-B749-C2080BC80930.jpegAA32DE1E-9B09-4E16-94B0-17BE88B8EBD9.jpegED5D68B8-B337-480B-AA40-2F72409CC18A.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Day 42 of Flower update.

My hydrogen peroxide and water mixture spray seems to be keeping the PM that I’ve been battling at bay.

Even with the PM battle the plants are looking much healthier at this point than they did last grow, so at least some of my adjustments have definitely improved upon the first trial. Still looks like everything will go at least another 2 weeks, probably longer.

I’ve also decided to go by how the flowers look to decide when I harvest this flower round instead of going by trichome development; partly just to train myself to be able to tell by looks, and partly to be sure that they have time to fully ripen/develop.0BE00D2B-C3F2-4349-A563-08978CB3388B.jpeg33ADF8F7-7BB1-44B6-B9FC-941121ABBF3F.jpeg9DE900C4-18AF-4E47-A077-BBE4611B1EA3.jpegD6D1D845-D165-4BC2-9DA2-6ED8BAAC1CB0.jpeg
 

HH1956

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Good job! looks like you're getting your use out of this light I wanted one of those lights for a long time I ended up hacking a blurple light & converting it to luminus cobs & dual 240w. drivers for a 480w. cob light I'm on my first run with it 20200616_094200.jpg20200616_094220.jpg20200616_094244.jpg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Good job! looks like you're getting your use out of this light I wanted one of those lights for a long time I ended up hacking a blurple light & converting it to luminus cobs & dual 240w. drivers for a 480w. cob light I'm on my first run with it View attachment 4597126View attachment 4597127View attachment 4597128
Thanks! Yeah, Bad been wanting a Timber for a while and couldn’t be happier with my decision to finally get one.

Awesome hack on that Blurple to COB conversion! Canopy looks awesome! If you have a log I’ll definitely check it out and subscribe.
 

LCPGrower1980

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Day 53 Flower update. Half way through Week 8 and a couple of the plants are starting to look like they might be finished.

The Dinamed has pretty much not changed in the past 4-5 days and checking the Trichomes they are mostly cloudy with a few ambers. Being a CBD strain I don’t want it to go too amber, so the combination of these two signs says to me that it’s ready to harvest.

One of the Acapulco’s has many of the physical characteristics of being ripe; most of the hairs have turned orange and are curling back in; decent number of Amber Trichomes (Probably about 30%); and nice dense/solid flowers when you squeeze them. I am tempted to let it go a little longer and see if it will fatten up more, but it also hasn’t changed much in the past 4-5 days either. Will probably let it go to the end of the week (Saturday) just to be sure.

Need to check the Skunk too, though she has started to shoot out some new white pistils and those calyxes are somewhat swelling more, so I may let her go a little longer and see if she will continue to swell if I let her.

Everything else still has a little ways to go. Had to dim the Timber to take these pictures, or else my phone camera makes everything look yellow for whatever reason.1E45DD26-A9C2-4FFF-87C0-D664BA859318.jpeg2F0BC9DA-DBB4-4698-930E-CD0CC8CA8330.jpegD3929CEB-9C28-48E9-8F64-17CB90931880.jpeg0D0C8997-25EB-4F8E-8B9D-F13931AAF117.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Day 56 of Flower update.

After checking the trichomes on everything and looking at how everything was developing, I decided that today was Harvest Day.

A couple of the plants could have went a little further (Jamaican Shipwreck, one of the Acapulco’s, and the more Sativa Mazar), but they all were within the harvest window in terms of development (probably midway) by looking at them and some of the others were telling me that they needed to be harvested pronto (a couple were starting to stress out big time).

Since I only have one space to dry them, I decided it was time to pull the plug on all of them and chop them.

Things I learned this grow:
1) That Timber 4VS is one powerful light! I kept it significantly further away from the canopy this run (nothing got closer than 24” and that was more towards the perimeter of the tent, most were more like 30-36”) and still I was having some Light Stress signs from a few of the plants. I also had some buds that popped out of growth nodes way down on a few plants that wound up developing surprisingly well and being solid/dense buds when it came time to harvest them. Realistically this means that I probably don’t need to Lollipop nearly as much as I had thought and @RainDan isn’t kidding when he talks about the penetration power of the Timber COBs!

2) Fighting Mother Nature sucks! All done with that crap! I think this was probably the most “plagued” grow I’ve done yet. I’ve battled aphid infestations in the past, but this round I had a battle with Spider Mites and Powdery Mildew! Luckily won the Spider Mite battle using Nature (Predator Mites), but damn if I just couldn’t win the PM battle (only just kinda survived it). As a result, and after doing much research on the subject of Living Soil, I’ve decided to start working with Nature and letting her fight my battles for me, rather than trying to control and/or fight against her. Compost (Berkeley Method) is already cooking and I plan on using my used M3 as a base, combined with the homemade compost and probably some Promix HP (pretty much just peat and perlite) in there as well; all in a 3x3 Fabric Raised Bed that I got off Geopot. Also got a Blumat Fabric Pot kit so I won’t ever have to worry about them drying out or not getting watered when I go away and some red Wigglers to aerate the soil, as well as furthering my Soil Food Web.

3) I found a definite keeper (at least as far as how it grows) in the Jamaican Shipwreck from Sequoia Seeds. Both Acapulco’s (from Barney’s Farm) were nice plants as well, though one pheno was slightly better in terms of growth, plant structure, and flower structure (will be interesting to compare their effects). Next run I am gonna do fewer plants and have decided that the Jamaican Shipwreck, Acapulco, and Lambsbread have made the cut. Nothing else I grew this time did (though I have clones of most of them currently going now in my outdoor grow, so I will have more of each and could always potentially take a cutting from one to keep the genetics going if I decided that I really liked it). One of my buddies got a cut of some Panama Pupil from Mass Medical Strains though, so am gonna get a cut from him and put that in for my 4th plant in my bed for the next grow.

Thanks to everyone who has been following along. Here are a few pictures of the plants in the tent with the lights out, ready to be chopped. 972A864E-FE6F-440C-A63F-35109622A015.jpegC32929D7-E935-44D4-823B-93AF92440E6D.jpegFA90F02A-9B08-47D8-8106-A60DCC770F6F.jpegFBA1B9A0-94E7-45FB-88F8-6D222EF85CFB.jpeg7A2AD71F-9C6B-4B0A-8FA9-2202178D1781.jpegB924214B-4DA3-4121-A30C-9B3CF7090220.jpeg29B5C028-1C79-4257-B912-214B21512A70.jpeg
 
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RainDan

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Day 56 of Flower update.

After checking the trichomes on everything and looking at how everything was developing, I decided that today was Harvest Day.

A couple of the plants could have went a little further (Jamaican Shipwreck, one of the Acapulco’s, and the more Sativa Mazar), but they all were within the harvest window in terms of development (probably midway) by looking at them and some of the others were telling me that they needed to be harvested pronto (a couple were starting to stress out big time).

Since I only have one space to dry them, I decided it was time to pull the plug on all of them and chop them.

Things I learned this grow:
1) That Timber 4VS is one powerful light! I kept it significantly further away from the canopy this run (nothing got closer than 24” and that was more towards the perimeter of the tent, most were more like 30-36”) and still I was having some Light Stress signs from a few of the plants. I also had some buds that popped out of growth nodes way down on a few plants that wound up developing surprisingly well and being solid/dense buds when it came time to harvest them. Realistically this means that I probably don’t need to Lollipop nearly as much as I had thought and @RainDan isn’t kidding when he talks about the penetration power of the Timber COBs!

2) Fighting Mother Nature sucks! All done with that crap! I think this was probably the most “plagued” grow I’ve done yet. I’ve battled aphid infestations in the past, but this round I had a battle with Spider Mites and Powdery Mildew! Luckily won the Spider Mite battle using Nature (Predator Mites), but damn if I just couldn’t win the PM battle (only just kinda survived it). As a result, and after doing much research on the subject of Living Soil, I’ve decided to start working with Nature and letting her fight my battles for me, rather than trying to control and/or fight against her. Compost (Berkeley Method) is already cooking and I plan on using my used M3 as a base, combined with the homemade compost and probably some Promix HP (pretty much just peat and perlite) in there as well; all in a 3x3 Fabric Raised Bed that I got off Geopot. Also got a Blumat Fabric Pot kit so I won’t ever have to worry about them drying out or not getting watered when I go away and some red Wigglers to aerate the soil, as well as furthering my Soil Food Web.

3) I found a definite keeper (at least as far as how it grows) in the Jamaican Shipwreck from Sequoia Seeds. Both Acapulco’s (from Barney’s Farm) were nice plants as well, though one pheno was slightly better in terms of growth, plant structure, and flower structure (will be interesting to compare their effects). Next run I am gonna do fewer plants and have decided that the Jamaican Shipwreck, Acapulco, and Lambsbread have made the cut. Nothing else I grew this time did (though I have clones of most of them currently going now in my outdoor grow, so I will have more of each and could always potentially take a cutting from one to keep the genetics going if I decided that I really liked it). One of my buddies got a cut of some Panama Pupil from Mass Medical Strains though, so am gonna get a cut from him and put that in for my 4th plant in my bed for the next grow.

Thanks to everyone who has been following along. Here are a few pictures of the plants in the tent with the lights out, ready to be chopped. View attachment 4607880View attachment 4607881View attachment 4607882View attachment 4607883View attachment 4607884View attachment 4607885View attachment 4607886
Great job - nice haul!
 

LCPGrower1980

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Finally got some pictures of the girls hanging/drying. Soaked them all in straight 3% H2O2 to be sure to kill all PM spores. Also did a rough wet trim both to eliminate places for the spores to hide, and also to help them dry a little faster as it’s been crazy humid here lately!

Overall solid colas on these girls (except for the Sativa dominant Mazar, which wasn’t fully finished I don’t think but had kinda crappy branch and flower structure anyhow, even then still not terrible though and better than a lot of the stuff from last grow), especially the Jamaican Shipwreck! Only a few “popcorn” buds down on a few branches here or there and every single one of them was solid! So, easy trim (which I prefer).

Overall I definitely feel like this grow was an improvement over the last one and I should yield more I think, even having lost a plant due to being a male. WAY easier trimming too! 180800C7-580A-4F45-B93C-B188C3237329.jpegA9E3AB50-6C80-470F-A337-F6B933D01877.jpegB3BCC23A-E21E-4F62-895E-CF462B3F309E.jpeg4D38B8A3-D40D-4EE4-8D98-CAFBB82D2782.jpeg0E267035-6D38-463B-A2C4-8056EABD3CD6.jpeg
 

LCPGrower1980

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Nothing like gazing upon the fruits of your labor
Definitely! Always still feel a little anxious until I have them in the jars though for whatever reason. I think, once I get to that point things get pretty predictable and I can more or less relax and stick to the plan. Prior to that it’s always a guessing game as to when they’ll be done.
 

horribleherk

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You've got multiple strains that will keep yo
Definitely! Always still feel a little anxious until I have them in the jars though for whatever reason. I think, once I get to that point things get pretty predictable and I can more or less relax and stick to the plan. Prior to that it’s always a guessing game as to when they’ll be done.
u on your toes lol
 

LCPGrower1980

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You've got multiple strains that will keep yo
u on your toes lol
True that! Also though not as much discrepancy as last time, pretty significant difference in the colas (and plants) between the Jamaican and say the Dinamed!

Saturday will be 7 days of drying and I felt them today to see how they are doing. Nowhere near done, but gonna try a further semi-wet finish trim (ala Derek Gilman) tomorrow (Day 6 of drying) and then let them finish up. Still lots of flex in the stems so they should easily still make 10 days I think.
 
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