Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?


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Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Im guessing you are an allopathic doctor or just a wanna be believer in allopathic drugs.
DRUGS and chemicals will be the death of us, better living through chemistry is a lie.
Drugs cure things huh? You dont think the burry or hide the real problem, one things for sure, you are brain washed and arrogant enough to be a doctor.

Whatever you do , dont research, i also like the way you repeatedly have gotten personal, i think your a 17 year old with a daddy doctor or mommy nurse.


Do some research junior
since you used the bullshit phrase "allopathic" i must therefore assume you have ZERO hours of study in real science, since "Allopathy" is a pejorative term created by the homeopathic/chiropractic/snakeoilsalesmen/witchdoctor crowd to swing like a cricket bat at any who doubt the unproven claims of their BULLSHIT assertions.

comfrey is NOT illegal, i never made any claim of "chemicals" (which of course comfrey contains none of... wait? what?) or "drugs" (which term only applies to REAL medical compounds, while unproved bullshit is of course "medicine").

you got every scrap of that narrative from the voices inside your head.

i love natural remedies, and use them often, preferring to avoid pharmaceuticals whenever possible.

i still use gentian violet, epsom salts, willow bark, peppermint, and many other natural old tyme remedies in my day to day.

Bee/insect sting: a paste of baking soda and oatmeal applied to the wound draws out the venom.
minor infections: gentian violet applied daily for a week clears it up most every time
athelete's foot: zinc powder and talc.
headache: willow bark tea (thats where aspirin came from originally)
burns: aloe vera right off the cactus growing in my garden
etc etc etc.
all this shit is "natural, but it actually works, meanwhile you cant discern between "comfrey is NOT illegal and i have used it to good effect" and "comfrey is hokum so you should buy cialis and prilosec" thus proving that you are, like so may others in the anti-gmo crowd, an incorrigible liar and bullshit slinger.

i even gave you links to by REAL "heirloom" comfrey seeds to grow it yourself, but you still maintain that it is illegal.

self-deluded or mentally retarded? pick your label, cuz im done arguing with your dumb ass.
 

jkahndb0

Well-Known Member
I guess no one cares about the scientific method.
GMO haters are the same as climate deniers. Except they are poorer and have hygiene issues.
I am not against GMO's...
I am against introducing GMO's into the national food supply without labeling and without proper long term testing...
 

Someacdude

Active Member
since you used the bullshit phrase "allopathic" i must therefore assume you have ZERO hours of study in real science, since "Allopathy" is a pejorative term created by the homeopathic/chiropractic/snakeoilsalesmen/witchdoctor crowd to swing like a cricket bat at any who doubt the unproven claims of their BULLSHIT assertions.

comfrey is NOT illegal, i never made any claim of "chemicals" (which of course comfrey contains none of... wait? what?) or "drugs" (which term only applies to REAL medical compounds, while unproved bullshit is of course "medicine").

you got every scrap of that narrative from the voices inside your head.

i love natural remedies, and use them often, preferring to avoid pharmaceuticals whenever possible.

i still use gentian violet, epsom salts, willow bark, peppermint, and many other natural old tyme remedies in my day to day.

Bee/insect sting: a paste of baking soda and oatmeal applied to the wound draws out the venom.
minor infections: gentian violet applied daily for a week clears it up most every time
athelete's foot: zinc powder and talc.
headache: willow bark tea (thats where aspirin came from originally)
burns: aloe vera right off the cactus growing in my garden
etc etc etc.
all this shit is "natural, but it actually works, meanwhile you cant discern between "comfrey is NOT illegal and i have used it to good effect" and "comfrey is hokum so you should buy cialis and prilosec" thus proving that you are, like so may others in the anti-gmo crowd, an incorrigible liar and bullshit slinger.

i even gave you links to by REAL "heirloom" comfrey seeds to grow it yourself, but you still maintain that it is illegal.

self-deluded or mentally retarded? pick your label, cuz im done arguing with your dumb ass.
Bingo , i just knew you where a wanna be.
Better living through chemistry to you too, even if it is a lie , just one more scheme to keep people dependent and medicate them out of their misery.
You wouldn't know an actual cure if it bit you on the butt.
Wish i had time to explain things to you, but im covered in hives from one of your wonderful products , wont make that mistake again.
Wish i could have been a doctor, then again i was never really good at memorizing , writing it down, then forgetting it.

What did you prescribe for yourself ?
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
You have a link to the study?
I could point to plenty of studies by people trying to find harm in gmos that can only find results by using extremely poor methods

After 20 years if there were adverse effects then surely they would have been found? As above there's been no shortage of people looking for that harm

Hell after 20 years they can't even show how it would cause
 

Someacdude

Active Member
Guys i never said monsanto was the devil, all im saying is eat and grow as natural as we can.
I watched what this did to the quality of our food first hand growing up in farm land.
Poor nutrition is one of the biggest drawbacks.
Money drives it all period and any business will say and pay whoever and whatever they have to to keep the sales up.

I handle enough chemicals already, grow what you like, have a ball, just dont ell me im stupid for not agreeing with you.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I too have followed all this studies I can find. There is nothing here but the Hippy Religion where Monsanto is the Devil.
cdude, I looked for the word stupid and could not find it. I said the hippies have a religion where Monsanto is Devil.

Not that you worship the devil.
 

Someacdude

Active Member
cdude, I looked for the word stupid and could not find it. I said the hippies have a religion where Monsanto is Devil.

Not that you worship the devil.
I was following along, i didnt get that out of your post, i dont troll you since you seem like i decent guy who can discuss things.

Like i said, i just dont want anymore government or big business interfering with food unless it involves cleanliness.

Im not a liberal nor a conservative, i see both sides as equally guilty and equally devoid of any quality that will actually help anyone, otherwise we would all be healthy for free, its all money driven.

Once upon a time in china , the local healers where paid until the people got sick , them he stopped being paid. Seems reasonable to me.
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
Once upon a time in china , the local healers where paid until the people got sick , them he stopped being paid. Seems reasonable to me.
If you think that's good I rent out tiger repelling rocks to people to protect them from tiger attacks. If they get attacked by a tiger they no longer have to pay the rentals

I'm thinking about branching out into cancer repelling sticks under the same model.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Bingo , i just knew you where a wanna be.
Better living through chemistry to you too, even if it is a lie , just one more scheme to keep people dependent and medicate them out of their misery.
You wouldn't know an actual cure if it bit you on the butt.
Wish i had time to explain things to you, but im covered in hives from one of your wonderful products , wont make that mistake again.
Wish i could have been a doctor, then again i was never really good at memorizing , writing it down, then forgetting it.

What did you prescribe for yourself ?
ORLY?

when did i ever say "better living through chemistry" or any other such twaddle?
when did i ever suggest you buy pharmaceuticals? (protip: Lanolin, the product my dermatologist recommends for my own "defatting" issue is a byproduct of sheep wool)
what product of mine gave you hives?
indeed what product do i produce that you might have been exposed to? (i only sell my fruits and vegetable locally)
what does you inability to memorize shit has any bearing on my PROOF that comfrey is not banned?

for myself i prescribe cannabis, my current rotation is Northern Lights, 707 Headband, Jilly Bean, DJ Short's OG Blueberry and the Spice Melange.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/article/medical-marijuana-next-gmo-franken-plant
"Is Medical Marijuana the Next GMO "Franken-Plant"?"



Posted by Lee G. Leissett | April 01 2013 The ever-increasing number of GMO foods entering our food supply is creating great concern for many people. Now it looks like marijuana might be the next major GMO crop.
Even more frightening is that despite public opinion strongly in favor of GMO-labeling, companies like Monsanto have been able to crush any labeling laws by spending millions of dollars. So you might not even know if your cannabis is GMO-free.
There are many reasons why Monsanto and other GMO companies would want to get their claws into cannabis. For the hemp proponent or medical marijuana user there is little doubt that cannabis is a great (if not the greatest) resource on the planet. After all, this is what the whole marijuana prohibition thing is about.

Hemp

Cannabis is much more than medicine and Monsanto knows it.
Industrial hemp, which is made from a non-psychoactive variety of cannabis, has about 45 accepted varieties registered or already in commercial trade, used in almost every aspect of manufacturing, from clothing to building materials. What is interesting about these varieties is that none are suitable for growth below the 45th parallel. They were all developed and used above the 45th parallel.
Unbeknownst to hemp activists in California, and other states that have passed hemp farming bills, there is no hemp variety currently available that will produce less that .3 percent THC when grown below the 45th parallel. This is because the amount of UV light that gets to the earth’s surface is higher below that parallel and cannabis has a built in UV protector, THC.
As soon as Monsanto, or another morally questionable GMO company, creates a GMO cannabis plant that will produce less than .3% THC (regardless of the UV light to which it is exposed) they will monopolize the industrial hemp industry in the United States (and most of the world).
Medical Marijuana

There are also big incentives for GMO companies to manipulate medical marijuana. The medical marijuana industry has been a thorn in the side of Big Pharma for over a decade now and they will do whatever is necessary to reclaim those profits.
Once teamed-up with GMO companies, Big Pharma can create Franken-strains with the ability to produce more medically active compounds which will be extracted, patented, and sold as medicine.
This is similar to the situation with plant-based medications like morphine and codeine, both extracted from the non-GMO opium poppy (papaver somniferum) and whose active compounds are chemically reconstructed to create the even more potent oxycodone (found in Percocet and Oxycontin), while growing and consuming the plant oneself is illegal.
AFP News broke the story in 2011 regarding GMO medical marijuana:
Greenhouses lined with genetically modified marijuana sit on a mountainside just an hour ride from Cali, Colombia, where farmers say the enhanced plants are more powerful and profitable.
One greenhouse owner said she can sell the modified marijuana for 100,000 pesos ($54) per kilo (2.2 pounds), which is nearly 10 times more than the price she can get for ordinary marijuana.
Local authorities said the arrival of genetically modified seeds, which are imported from Europe and the United States have allowed "a bigger production and better quality at the same time".
A police commander in the Cauca region where Cali is located, Carlos Rodriguez, said one of the modified varieties goes by the name "Creepy".
Another seed modified in The Netherlands is fetching a good price in the area, said a foreign researcher, who asked to remain anonymous. That version, well-known in Europe as "La Cominera", is named for the Colombian village where it grows.
"La Cominera's" higher value is due to its increased concentration of THC, the plant's principal active ingredient, and the modified plant verges on an 18 percent concentration level, compared to a normal marijuana plant's two to seven percent, said the researcher.

Once the gene responsible for marijuana’s psycho-activity was identified, mad scientists had the ability to start manipulating it. The genome of the cannabis plant was sequenced and published by the British company Medicinal Genomics in 2011.
Whether their goal is to increase or decrease THC production within the cannabis plant, there is no doubt medical marijuana is the next big Franken-plant for the GMO industry.
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Now THIS is all lies.
this is the stupidest claptrap ever foisted on this DOPE GROWING FORUM

Unbeknownst to hemp activists in California, and other states that have passed hemp farming bills, there is no hemp variety currently available that will produce less that .3 percent THC when grown below the 45th parallel. This is because the amount of UV light that gets to the earth’s surface is higher below that parallel and cannabis has a built in UV protector, THC.

BULLSHIT!

This is similar to the situation with plant-based medications like morphine and codeine, both extracted from the non-GMO opium poppy (papaver somniferum) and whose active compounds are chemically reconstructed to create the even more potent oxycodone (found in Percocet and Oxycontin), while growing and consuming the plant oneself is illegal.

BULLSHIT!
Protip: you can buy, plant grow and enjoy Papaver Somniferum ANYWHERE in the US, only tapping the sap of the seed pod, or consuming the product thereof, is illegal, much in the same what it is illegal to inhale the nitrous oxide from your Reddi Whip can, or sniff glue.

"La Cominera's" higher value is due to its increased concentration of THC, the plant's principal active ingredient, and the modified plant verges on an 18 percent concentration level, compared to a normal marijuana plant's two to seven percent, said the researcher.

18%???? HA HA HA HA!! dude. seriously.

Feminized & Autoflowering Marijuana: A Monsanto GMO Plot to Eliminate Natural Marijuana Genetics?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! man you are useless.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Greenhouses lined with genetically modified marijuana sit on a mountainside just an hour ride from Cali, Colombia, where farmers say the enhanced plants are more powerful and profitable.
One greenhouse owner said she can sell the modified marijuana for 100,000 pesos ($54) per kilo (2.2 pounds), which is nearly 10 times more than the price she can get for ordinary marijuana.
Local authorities said the arrival of genetically modified seeds, which are imported from Europe and the United States have allowed "a bigger production and better quality at the same time".
A police commander in the Cauca region where Cali is located, Carlos Rodriguez, said one of the modified varieties goes by the name "Creepy".
Another seed modified in The Netherlands is fetching a good price in the area, said a foreign researcher, who asked to remain anonymous. That version, well-known in Europe as "La Cominera", is named for the Colombian village where it grows.
"La Cominera's" higher value is due to its increased concentration of THC, the plant's principal active ingredient, and the modified plant verges on an 18 percent concentration level, compared to a normal marijuana plant's two to seven percent, said the researcher.

So do they get their seeds from the same places as our sponsors for this forum?
 

RPM371

Well-Known Member
You want to ban science? What are you, a Republican?

I say genetically engineer the shit right out of cannabis, and corn, and wheat, and fish, and humans.
You do understand that if your non Monsanto plant somehow gets pollinated by a Monsanto plant that your plant is now a Monsanto plant. If they push the same policy they have with soybeans you can not clone the plant or keep any seed. You do not want to take on Monsanto.
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
"La Cominera's" higher value is due to its increased concentration of THC, the plant's principal active ingredient, and the modified plant verges on an 18 percent concentration level, compared to a normal marijuana plant's two to seven percent, said the researcher.

Once the gene responsible for marijuana’s psycho-activity was identified, mad scientists had the ability to start manipulating it. The genome of the cannabis plant was sequenced and published by the British company Medicinal Genomics in 2011.
Whether their goal is to increase or decrease THC production within the cannabis plant, there is no doubt medical marijuana is the next big Franken-plant for the GMO industry.
Haha 18% thc = super genetically modified cannabis?

That's worse than the "super skunk" bullshit propaganda you get from idiot reporters.... you do know this is a growers forum?

I love how the article immediately goes on to admit that they've only just sequenced the cannabis genome too as I can find references to "La Comineras" ​going back to 2011
That means this claim of gmo cannabis is bullshit
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
You do understand that if your non Monsanto plant somehow gets pollinated by a Monsanto plant that your plant is now a Monsanto plant. If they push the same policy they have with soybeans you can not clone the plant or keep any seed. You do not want to take on Monsanto.
No it does not mean your plant is Monsanto's plant
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Haha 18% thc = super genetically modified cannabis?

That's worse than the "super skunk" bullshit propaganda you get from idiot reporters.... you do know this is a growers forum?

I love how the article immediately goes on to admit that they've only just sequenced the cannabis genome too as I can find references to "La Comineras" ​going back to 2011
That means this claim of gmo cannabis is bullshit
Dont forget all the home grow busts where they show the "dangerous" chemicals also found in the raid
Like liquid fertilizers and dirt
 
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