SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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raggyb said:
in my opinion 3 inch looks good ratio on that size, as long as it will reach the water with the 1" gap. I wove felt strips into some net pots to extend down further in case my water level got low. idk you might find that worth a try. it would depend on what you got happening there. seemed to me i should top water the first day or two and once the soil is wet through the capilary action would keep the wick going. but i'm no expert. i haven't tried it with a cap yet. i mulched instead. might try a cap on one sooner or later.
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That sounds right as far as the capilary action, I mulch also and have no cap. I haven't made these 3 gallon ones at all yet so we will see.
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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raggyb said:
good luck! i think you're the sip expert and i don't need to tell you but i can't keep everyone straight in my head these days.
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I dont know that I am an expert but I have been growing for about 12 years and sips for at least the last half of it..they are just so damn easy! Most i have learned through trial and error hahaha... so my newest idea...in these bucket resiviors.. I want to Dremel out a very small strip maybe 1/4" x 6" ish up from the bottom of the bucket and then glue a small piece of clear plexi there with water proof food grade adhesive. That way you can see your exact water level at all times. I hate over watering and having stuff spilling all over because one plant took less water then the first few that I estimated off of
 
raggyb

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
I dont know that I am an expert but I have been growing for about 12 years and sips for at least the last half of it..they are just so damn easy! Most i have learned through trial and error hahaha... so my newest idea...in these bucket resiviors.. I want to Dremel out a very small strip maybe 1/4" x 6" ish up from the bottom of the bucket and then glue a small piece of clear plexi there with water proof food grade adhesive. That way you can see your exact water level at all times. I hate over watering and having stuff spilling all over because one plant took less water then the first few that I estimated off of
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nice idea. the water pressure should help hold the plastic on too. i did the elbows with a clear tube to the outside. it's helpful to have though they get some algae in them after some time as they're exposed to the light and a little difficult to read and to maintain I need to get a pipecleaner now. i think maybe you're using EM1? maybe that keeps the algae down plus you will have less light exposure.
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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raggyb said:
nice idea. the water pressure should help hold the plastic on too. i did the elbows with a clear tube to the outside. it's helpful to have though they get some algae in them after some time as they're exposed to the light and a little difficult to read and to maintain I need to get a pipecleaner now. i think maybe you're using EM1? maybe that keeps the algae down plus you will have less light exposure.
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I have the exact same algae problem on my 18 gallon tote sips that I use for feminized seeds that have that same elbow and tube design. Even using em1 I somehow still get it lol. I wonder if maybe the same elbow design would be easier them the Dremel and glue bit.
 
Tim Fox

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The Sip I like to use is called a "growbox" is simular to the earthbox, but you can fill the res thru the front and you can see the water level in the res, but its negative point is its in two pieces, so you cant grab it by the top rail and carry it around, Sips are stinking heavy to, so I built this wood tray / box with handles on the left and right, so i can load up the SIP in the barn with soil and plants and put the top plastic on, and then carry it to my bedroom and lift it into the grow box, without making a huge stinking mess on my bedroom carpet like last time hahahIMG_7591.JPGIMG_7592.JPGIMG_7593.JPG
 
weedstoner420

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Tim Fox said:
The Sip I like to use is called a "growbox" is simular to the earthbox, but you can fill the res thru the front and you can see the water level in the res, but its negative point is its in two pieces, so you cant grab it by the top rail and carry it around, Sips are stinking heavy to, so I built this wood tray / box with handles on the left and right, so i can load up the SIP in the barn with soil and plants and put the top plastic on, and then carry it to my bedroom and lift it into the grow box, without making a huge stinking mess on my bedroom carpet like last time hahahView attachment 4782574View attachment 4782575View attachment 4782576
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Good idea with the carrying tray, my growboxes must be a newer version because they snap together and don't come apart. They're easier to move around but it's a pain in the butt to clean out the res afterwards.

Best of luck with the grow!
 
Tim Fox

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weedstoner420 said:
Good idea with the carrying tray, my growboxes must be a newer version because they snap together and don't come apart. They're easier to move around but it's a pain in the butt to clean out the res afterwards.

Best of luck with the grow!
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it looks like mine was supposed to snap togetehr,, i guess it did on the first grow, but those tabs on the little posts that snap got weaker, i think it happens when the res is full of water , and the top is full of soil, and i grabbed the top to lift it, and the bottom stayed and the top lifted off
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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meangreengrowinmachine

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Tim Fox said:
you too buddy,, mixing up soil today and getting those clones into dirt
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Nice! I'm sure you saw my insane plans above lol. I just flipped my current room; of mostly Bodhi black raspberry, on Christmas I need to insulate my basement a bunch then move them under the big light and start the new project! I have become a Useful and Bodhi seed hoarder it seems so picking my next run will be interesting!
 
Humanrob

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
So... I think I might be going over board here ans want some input. I want to flower about 11 plants. I suck shit at cloning and am using non feminized seeds. My idea is to start with 2 packs of bodhi seeds they come in packs of 11. Start them in 4 inch pots for a couple weeks. Then up pot them to 3 gallon SIPs to veg them. Then I would flip them for 1 week to see them. Cull the males, and up pot them to 5 gallon SIPs for flowering.... so my issue is this would seem to be roughly 121 gallons of soil ( if I got half females to up pot to 5 gallon SIPs). Then if I want to do this perpetually I would want at least twice that and re amend the last batch as I'm using the current batch... so I think I would get away with ..26 totes roughly with 13ish cooking at once... am I losing it over here? Hahaha
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Haven't been around regularly, just saw this... my first thought was damn, you better have a good dehumidifier! Depends where you live and the season, I guess, but that much wet soil in my climate I'd be dumping a gallon every couple of days from my dehuey. That turned out to be the tipping point for me when I hit my personal plant limit for the space I was growing in (especially using fabric pots) -- the dehumidifier was running 24/7 making so much heat that I had to run AC in December. Electric bills and trying to balance it all was too much. Made me focus more on my outdoor grow! LOL

Every grow space has its own equilibrium point, you'll find your sweet spot. Looking forward to seeing pictures of this setup :)
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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Humanrob said:
Haven't been around regularly, just saw this... my first thought was damn, you better have a good dehumidifier! Depends where you live and the season, I guess, but that much wet soil in my climate I'd be dumping a gallon every couple of days from my dehuey. That turned out to be the tipping point for me when I hit my personal plant limit for the space I was growing in (especially using fabric pots) -- the dehumidifier was running 24/7 making so much heat that I had to run AC in December. Electric bills and trying to balance it all was too much. Made me focus more on my outdoor grow! LOL

Every grow space has its own equilibrium point, you'll find your sweet spot. Looking forward to seeing pictures of this setup :)
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Yeah I am in a cold dry basement so I am actually doing the opposite and having to ADD heat and humidity atm lol. In the summer time it stays relatively cool but I might have to try a smaller or an outdoor run then.
 
Humanrob

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
Yeah I am in a cold dry basement so I am actually doing the opposite and having to ADD heat and humidity atm lol. In the summer time it stays relatively cool but I might have to try a smaller or an outdoor run then.
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That's what makes sharing information on the internet so challenging, we're all in different situations so we really need to ask a lot of questions and filter out what does and doesn't apply to us.
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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Humanrob said:
That's what makes sharing information on the internet so challenging, we're all in different situations so we really need to ask a lot of questions and filter out what does and doesn't apply to us.
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Especially in something as specific turning your particular environment into the perfect environment to grow your particular strain. Soooo many specific and different factors. A lot of threads on this forum really forget about that fact and just end with folks all fighting about who is right, when they both probably are for their one circumstances. But that's why I love THIS thread, we all can stand back and realize we all have a different situation, and SIPs are so versatile that they work in all kinds of situations!
 
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