SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

DankTankerous

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I'm dealing with a bit of this myself. I put 2 plants to a eatthbox Jr and flowered at 12" tall which is about where I would go with 2 gal pots. I figure since each Jr hold about 4 gallons of soil it would work great. wrong. they grow so fast in the sips the soil was done by week 3 of flower. I had to top them off w another gallon of soil + ewc, mixed in more dry DTE vegan mix and topped off w bokashi. am now feeding them buildabloom thru the res. I think I can get thru flower this way but it ain't my prettiest crop that's for sure.

I was using ammended soil that I've run a couple times before. Going to have to go with 1/3 ewc and add some pumice I think to make this work with what I have left for my next round. I also think once I've used this all up I'm going to toss it and use fresh soil every run. might still have to cheat and use the buildabloom anyway.

"my plants grow too fast"... what a problem to have ;)

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You’re plants look great to me. How are you feeding your plant through the res?

I’m also using recycled and re-amended soil, I just toss the roots in my worm bin and give more aeration and worm castings. I’m going to upgrade next time and either get the full sized Earthbox or make my own. I still have like a gal or two of the coot’s mix but it looks flowering tea’s once a week or every other. I also have a bunch of homemade worm castings so it should be good

I foliar fed it with Fish Amino Acid and that did the trick. Leavings were green and praying this morning
 

ilovereggae

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You’re plants look great to me. How are you feeding your plant through the res?

I’m also using recycled and re-amended soil, I just toss the roots in my worm bin and give more aeration and worm castings. I’m going to upgrade next time and either get the full sized Earthbox or make my own. I still have like a gal or two of the coot’s mix but it looks flowering tea’s once a week or every other. I also have a bunch of homemade worm castings so it should be good

I foliar fed it with Fish Amino Acid and that did the trick. Leavings were green and praying this morning
thanks! they are going ok just the leaves are looking a little light compared to the first run in this soil in plastic grow bags.. this was at about same time frame 5 or 6sh weeks I think.

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I'm all in on the Jr's I bought a bunch and am determined to make them work. I think I just need more ewc to start with in my mix.

bas actually suggested the idea of feeding them thru the res, once they have good feeder roots.

what I've done 2x now is let the res get to just about dry and then mix 1/2 tsp of the buildabloom, 1 tsp of coconut powder, and 2 tsp of kelp meal "juice" (I keep a mason jar in fridge of kelp meal blended w water). mix it up w 1 gal of water and just fed thru the pvc tube. I figure they will drink that to bone dry in 48 hrs so there's nothing left to really get funky or let algae blossom. then run plain water.
 

natureboygrower

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yep -- the kiddie pools will just overflow on the top so can never have water touch the fabric pot. Will put some plants in around june 10th. Be interesting to see if they make it, neighbor came over and threatened to call the sheriff.Never had problems before but now they want to do an airbnb and all of a sudden dont like my plants
Sorry for this, but what a fucking asshole your neighbor is. He doesn't mind possibly intruding on your peace of mind by having randos/complete strangers stay next door to you every week, but he actually had the balls to complain about your plants bothering his guests? Think I'd be anonymously checking the town/permitting/codes to make sure he had all his papers in order to run an airbnb...

I tried amending my soil once and running another cycle but I didnt like the results either. I have such a small set up (2 EBs) mixing new soil each run is not a problem.
 

ilovereggae

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I tried amending my soil once and running another cycle but I didnt like the results either. I have such a small set up (2 EBs) mixing new soil each run is not a problem.
I really wanna embrace LOS and be able recycle my materials but it seems hard to make work in such small containers. also hard to figure out how to dial in a grow when the inputs are changing slightly each time. I agree just mixing up a fresh batch each time is more ideal bc u can have a consistent start and then be able to tweak it a little each run.
 

natureboygrower

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I really wanna embrace LOS and be able recycle my materials but it seems hard to make work in such small containers. also hard to figure out how to dial in a grow when the inputs are changing slightly each time. I agree just mixing up a fresh batch each time is more ideal bc u can have a consistent start and then be able to tweak it a little each run.
I feel you on wanting to recycle, i do too. I also want a trouble free grow, that's really why I love SIPS so much lol. It seems almost impossible to figure out what the soil is lacking after a run, imo.

I recycle my spent soil in my compost pile which takes the sting away a little.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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I really wanna embrace LOS and be able recycle my materials but it seems hard to make work in such small containers. also hard to figure out how to dial in a grow when the inputs are changing slightly each time. I agree just mixing up a fresh batch each time is more ideal bc u can have a consistent start and then be able to tweak it a little each run.
I have almost 200 gallons of soil in my sips. No way I'm throwing all that out and starting over. Re amending is for sure the way to go for me. I will do a soil test after this run to see what I need to re amend with, but most likely I will just give it a blend of my original nutrient regimine.
 

natureboygrower

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I have almost 200 gallons of soil in my sips. No way I'm throwing all that out and starting over. Re amending is for sure the way to go for me. I will do a soil test after this run to see what I need to re amend with, but most likely I will just give it a blend of my original nutrient regimine.
Damn man, how many containers are you running?

My only complaint about sips are hollow stems. Be nice to grab some cuts before flowering. Tbh, I've never tried because i figured theyd just turn to mush .
 

Hollatchaboy

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I'm dealing with a bit of this myself. I put 2 plants to a eatthbox Jr and flowered at 12" tall which is about where I would go with 2 gal pots. I figure since each Jr hold about 4 gallons of soil it would work great. wrong. they grow so fast in the sips the soil was done by week 3 of flower. I had to top them off w another gallon of soil + ewc, mixed in more dry DTE vegan mix and topped off w bokashi. am now feeding them buildabloom thru the res. I think I can get thru flower this way but it ain't my prettiest crop that's for sure.

I was using ammended soil that I've run a couple times before. Going to have to go with 1/3 ewc and add some pumice I think to make this work with what I have left for my next round. I also think once I've used this all up I'm going to toss it and use fresh soil every run. might still have to cheat and use the buildabloom anyway.

"my plants grow too fast"... what a problem to have ;)

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After harvest, throw some bas craft blend on and start a cover crop. Let the crop grow in, chop the crop, and your ready to go
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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Damn man, how many containers are you running?

My only complaint about sips are hollow stems. Be nice to grab some cuts before flowering. Tbh, I've never tried because i figured theyd just turn to mush .
12 full size SIPS under 24 cxb3590s in approx a 10 x 5. They are all mainlined to have 8 lolipops... its a little nuts in there right now hahahaha. I took clones before I moved them to their final sip home. I vegged in 3 gallon fabric pots ... which I might change down the line. They are a lot of work.
 

ilovereggae

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After harvest, throw some bas craft blend on and start a cover crop. Let the crop grow in, chop the crop, and your ready to go
literally was my plan, emailed them 2 weeks ago asking if they had considered a vegan version of craft blend. trying to stick with this for various reasons. the soil I started w was the Light Mix and as shown above first round they did amazing. I think I did an ewc "tea" once. rest was all water entire grow. still smoking that herb.

their answer was I would need to mix it myself, and find some replacements items. definitely considering it but still deciding east my next move is (literally might be moving soon and not sure I want to move dirt so I might just make do with what I have now and start fresh once I'm in a new space).
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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Yea I know it's nothing new, and it is kinda cool that they're getting the method out there. I just buy their products for the simplicity. There's no guesswork or labor mixing soils.
I was looking at buying some but with the lead time they have right now I mid as well continue to do what I am doing. Trying to go more perpetual maybe only do 6 sips at a time in flower. And have the next 6 ready to go.
 

Hollatchaboy

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literally was my plan, emailed them 2 weeks ago asking if they had considered a vegan version of craft blend. trying to stick with this for various reasons. the soil I started w was the Light Mix and as shown above first round they did amazing. I think I did an ewc "tea" once. rest was all water entire grow. still smoking that herb.

their answer was I would need to mix it myself, and find some replacements items. definitely considering it but still deciding east my next move is (literally might be moving soon and not sure I want to move dirt so I might just make do with what I have now and start fresh once I'm in a new space).
Yea, you could easily source everything and make your own blend.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I was looking at buying some but with the lead time they have right now I mid as well continue to do what I am doing. Trying to go more perpetual maybe only do 6 sips at a time in flower. And have the next 6 ready to go.
The lead time they have right now sucks, but it is growing season. Lol
I've only got 1 sip right now, so I dunno what I'm going to do next run. Maybe get another earthbox and bag of bas 3.0 on stand by for when the 1st run is harvested.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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Here is my soil thread and recipe if anyone is interested:-)

 

DankTankerous

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I wanted to take it to 8 weeks seeing as I’m barely seeing the preflowers. I have heard that topping the plant can slow the preflower development. Anyways it’ll be 7 weeks in two days, but I can’t wait around longer. The thing is a monster. I am keeping the lights off for 24-48 hrs then going into 12/12. I’m going to give the plant some AACT to help with the break down of nutrients that I top dressed it with. After two weeks I’ll top dress it with Dr Earth’s Flower along with other goodies. I’m going to need to buy a tent also, she has pretty much outgrown the cabinet o have here in. I have a hunch that she’s going to stretch quite a bit. Any who here she is today, at lights out
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sudshead

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Sorry for this, but what a fucking asshole your neighbor is. He doesn't mind possibly intruding on your peace of mind by having randos/complete strangers stay next door to you every week, but he actually had the balls to complain about your plants bothering his guests? Think I'd be anonymously checking the town/permitting/codes to make sure he had all his papers in order to run an airbnb...

I tried amending my soil once and running another cycle but I didnt like the results either. I have such a small set up (2 EBs) mixing new soil each run is not a problem.
thanks - the airbnb is allowed - and I dont treat the airbnb guests rudely - I am actually nice to them as its not their fault - but i used to help them out with house repairs, did dump runs for them - but not anymore - i know play gangsta rap when they are outside ;-) The wife came over to complain the husband didnt have the balls. Oh well life goes on
 
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