SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

ilovereggae

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So I read about the buildabloom and you’re right you can use it in hydroponics. I’m just curious about the parts kelp meal that don’t get taken up by the roots. I have some Fish Amino Acid which’s main bacteria is LaB and I know some people put in their reservoir. I put a little in mine and will see what happens. I just turned the lights on, so Day One of Flowering has commenced
I'm not too worried about the kelp meal I'm dosing it pretty light but even still, there's nothing to get funky its just a light tea from the seaweed and buildabloom. I'd be a little worried about anything that is an animal by product. I think the hydrolyzed fish protein powder for calmag might be ok but even that stinks just in dry form. no clue what the aminos will do sitting in the res like that.
 

DankTankerous

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I'm not too worried about the kelp meal I'm dosing it pretty light but even still, there's nothing to get funky its just a light tea from the seaweed and buildabloom. I'd be a little worried about anything that is an animal by product. I think the hydrolyzed fish protein powder for calmag might be ok but even that stinks just in dry form. no clue what the aminos will do sitting in the res like that.
i guess you and I will both see.
 

NewGrower2011

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So fellow SIP'ers I'm going to try another experiment and use "mini-SIPs" to help regulate watering in a small tent grow this time. I'm going to use stacked 2 gallon buckets this time. I'm noodling on what to use for the wicks.

I've considered using rope (of some type nylon/hemp/etc) and draping those down into the rez and then the next thought was a usual 'wick' where the media is in a column that goes down into the bucket. Trick is, what would be a good riser/column to use that isn't too large for a 2 gallon setup.

In my bigger full sized SIPs that I posted before I was using 4" corrugated pipe and now I'm looking at what size PVC pipe I might be able to leverage for these new miniature ones but thought the crowd here might be able to help brainstorm some other options I may not be aware of.
 

Hash Hound

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I just bought some 3/8" cotton sash cord that is braided and has a polyester core and it's working great wicking up water.
I've also used strips of a fabric bag with good results.

I have two tomatoes in 5g buckets one with sash cord and one with a cottage cheese container packed with dirt as the wick, both are out performing the ones in the garden dirt.
 

DankTankerous

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Hey y’all

I’m a few days into flowering do not have enough nutrients in my soil for the rest of the grow. I was thinking of taking the cover off and piling another gallon and putting straw as a mulch cover that away I can still top dress and semi hand water the top just to keep it moist. Will that work? I top dressed with neem right under the cover and I think it was going anaerobic so I put more soil on top for it to breath (so the neem is not right under the cover. It started to stink (yes I know Neem stinks but this was way worse))

Any recommendations?
 

Hollatchaboy

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Hey y’all

I’m a few days into flowering do not have enough nutrients in my soil for the rest of the grow. I was thinking of taking the cover off and piling another gallon and putting straw as a mulch cover that away I can still top dress and semi hand water the top just to keep it moist. Will that work? I top dressed with neem right under the cover and I think it was going anaerobic so I put more soil on top for it to breath (so the neem is not right under the cover. It started to stink (yes I know Neem stinks but this was way worse))

Any recommendations?
Compost tea maybe?
 

ilovereggae

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Hey y’all

I’m a few days into flowering do not have enough nutrients in my soil for the rest of the grow. I was thinking of taking the cover off and piling another gallon and putting straw as a mulch cover that away I can still top dress and semi hand water the top just to keep it moist. Will that work? I top dressed with neem right under the cover and I think it was going anaerobic so I put more soil on top for it to breath (so the neem is not right under the cover. It started to stink (yes I know Neem stinks but this was way worse))

Any recommendations?
I've added more soil to a couple sips now, plants always seem to respond well to having more soil
 

Hollatchaboy

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They definitely are, I just don’t have the time in my schedule to watch them. I was just wondering if anyone had experience with it. I’ll keep doing my thing and I’ll report my findings.
You know what? I'm sorry man, get some build a bloom. It's got water soluble npk. Also get some fish hydrolysate.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Hey y’all

I’m a few days into flowering do not have enough nutrients in my soil for the rest of the grow. I was thinking of taking the cover off and piling another gallon and putting straw as a mulch cover that away I can still top dress and semi hand water the top just to keep it moist. Will that work? I top dressed with neem right under the cover and I think it was going anaerobic so I put more soil on top for it to breath (so the neem is not right under the cover. It started to stink (yes I know Neem stinks but this was way worse))

Any recommendations?
What was the neem for?
 

DankTankerous

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You know what? I'm sorry man, get some build a bloom. It's got water soluble npk. Also get some fish hydrolysate.
its all good man thank you for suggestions. I don’t have build a bloom but I have all the ingredients, just not the ratio. Check out Fish Amino Acid, it’s more nutritious than fish hydrolysate
What was the neem for?
Neem seed meal is high in nitrogen, it’s a good fertilizer, however it’s bitter and doesn’t smell nice that’s why it’s used in organic pesticides. although it doesn’t kill pests just keeps them away. It also regulates the microflora keeps the bad microbes away. It also breaks down quicker and is great for fungi life. It’s one of the key ingredients in the coot’s soil mix. Which is the mix I am using.
 

ilovereggae

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its all good man thank you for suggestions. I don’t have build a bloom but I have all the ingredients, just not the ratio. Check out Fish Amino Acid, it’s more nutritious than fish hydrolysate


Neem seed meal is high in nitrogen, it’s a good fertilizer, however it’s bitter and doesn’t smell nice that’s why it’s used in organic pesticides. although it doesn’t kill pests just keeps them away. It also regulates the microflora keeps the bad microbes away. It also breaks down quicker and is great for fungi life. It’s one of the key ingredients in the coot’s soil mix. Which is the mix I am using.
how are you making out w the fish aminos in the res?

so far so good w the buildabloom, kelp meal, and coconut powder
 

Hollatchaboy

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its all good man thank you for suggestions. I don’t have build a bloom but I have all the ingredients, just not the ratio. Check out Fish Amino Acid, it’s more nutritious than fish hydrolysate


Neem seed meal is high in nitrogen, it’s a good fertilizer, however it’s bitter and doesn’t smell nice that’s why it’s used in organic pesticides. although it doesn’t kill pests just keeps them away. It also regulates the microflora keeps the bad microbes away. It also breaks down quicker and is great for fungi life. It’s one of the key ingredients in the coot’s soil mix. Which is the mix I am using.
Yea faa is great. I took the knf garden class. Amazing what you can do with fungus and ferments. Lol
 

DankTankerous

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The downside to neem is that it can affect flavor. I know people who can taste neem in buds when it's used.
thats interesting, I have always wondered if inputs effect flavor. I have heard the same thing with fish products from DJ Short. I’ll look into it.
how are you making out w the fish aminos in the res?

so far so good w the buildabloom, kelp meal, and coconut powder
Nice! I stopped giving it FAA, my neem meal started getting gooey and muddy on top and smelling really bad. So I was afraid it would go anaerobic, so I stopped. I haven’t seen any averse effects from adding it nor do I see benefits. But I’m thinking about putting Fermented Fruit Juice made from bananas in there.
 
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