SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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myke said:
Looks good,so was it PM back a while ago you mentioned?
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I know they don't look great lol stupid spider mites and some issues with my timers really messed with this run.i will be doing another more refined run using this method. Sips and mainling to 8 nodes, seems like a very efficient use of space and soil capacity to maximize yields, controlling larf, and not growing insane trees that out grow your space.
 
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Hash Hound

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this is my own Gringo2 (ColGoldxWidow)xWidow in a 5g bag sitting on a wick and riser looking a little pale so I top dressed with some Dr Earth.
It was packed solid with roots up top, I couldn't scratch the nutes in so I just poked a few holes and top watered a little.
There are normally two paint strainer bags full of growstone gnat block on top that act like a mulch also.

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Xsan

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howdy sipers, my next run will definitely be a sip and I was going to try the greens probiotic method with grokashi and em1 but am looking to keep the shopping list down a bit so my question is do you think i could go water only if I did a 40 gallon tub with the 4 inch pipe on the bottom and used the bas 3.0 soil or do you think I am still gonna need to add some juice? Should i just get the bas top dress kit or would you mix up some bus, ewc, pumice, and kraft blend, or a different combination? Planning on one plant in the container under a 600 samsung strip covering a 4x4 area. most likely will run ro water with organic cal mag

running the math this would be roughly 7.5 gallons of water and 30 gallons of soil
 
myke

myke

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Xsan said:
howdy sipers, my next run will definitely be a sip and I was going to try the greens probiotic method with grokashi and em1 but am looking to keep the shopping list down a bit so my question is do you think i could go water only if I did a 40 gallon tub with the 4 inch pipe on the bottom and used the bas 3.0 soil or do you think I am still gonna need to add some juice? Should i just get the bas top dress kit or would you mix up some bus, ewc, pumice, and kraft blend, or a different combination? Planning on one plant in the container under a 600 samsung strip covering a 4x4 area. most likely will run ro water with organic cal mag

running the math this would be roughly 7.5 gallons of water and 30 gallons of soil
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If you plan on growing a big girl then yea you'll need to add.One plant in a 4x4 will be a lot of buds.
Ive always thought why try to build a full tank and then run it dry,is it not better to just keep the soil full?
 
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Xsan

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myke said:
If you plan on growing a big girl then yea you'll need to add.One plant in a 4x4 will be a lot of buds.
Ive always thought why try to build a full tank and then run it dry,is it not better to just keep the soil full?
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Yeah one big girl is the goal, would you topdres with the topdress kit or make a concoction of bus blend, ewc, kraft blend, and pumice? or something else entirely? I fig I will start it in 1 gallon pots then into the 40 gal sip for veg and flower. fig fill the container when i drop the seed so the soil can jive while it is a seedling then transfer and do a solid layer for flowering?
 
myke

myke

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Xsan said:
Yeah one big girl is the goal, would you topdres with the topdress kit or make a concoction of bus blend, ewc, kraft blend, and pumice? or something else entirely? I fig I will start it in 1 gallon pots then into the 40 gal sip for veg and flower. fig fill the container when i drop the seed so the soil can jive while it is a seedling then transfer and do a solid layer for flowering?
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With soil Ive made it seems like 5 gallons lasts 3-4 weeks without top dress,so maybe with that much more soil it may last.But.If it starts to run out your way too late and then your scrambling.
 
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Polyuro

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I top dress bu's with Kashi and the rest is mixed into the base soil. Over time I top dress craft blend from BAS and or teas, fish hydrolyslate. Also a jobe's fertilizer stick a week before flip is really easy and effective. Some stick per 5 gallons. Has macros micros endos and ectos all in one. Only water in the rez and em-1.
 
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Xsan

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Polyuro said:
I top dress bu's with Kashi and the rest is mixed into the base soil. Over time I top dress craft blend from BAS and or teas, fish hydrolyslate. Also a jobe's fertilizer stick a week before flip is really easy and effective. Some stick per 5 gallons. Has macros micros endos and ectos all in one. Only water in the rez and em-1.
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I was considering doing the kashi and em1 but am trying to keep costs down if possible. The cost of the em1, molasses, burping jars, and kashi is what brought me to my original question. Trying to see if a similar method would work without the kashi and em1 if the container was large enough and a similar top dress routine was followed. Once at transplant, once a month in veg, and once before flower. Maybe just do the compost, pumice and kashi or craft blend and not do the em1 is suppose?

I know @Richard Drysift is a big fan of the jobes sticks and his garden is one to envy but he is WAY above my level in experience, knowledge, and skill. Trying to keep it somewhat simple and repeatable if possible. Im still a noob trying to get decent so I can work on getting good then try to figure out being able to hold a conversation with someone like Mr. Drysift.
 
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Xsan

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Xsan said:
I was considering doing the kashi and em1 but am trying to keep costs down if possible. The cost of the em1, molasses, burping jars, and kashi is what brought me to my original question. Trying to see if a similar method would work without the kashi and em1 if the container was large enough and a similar top dress routine was followed. Once at transplant, once a month in veg, and once before flower. Maybe just do the compost, pumice and kashi or craft blend and not do the em1 is suppose?

I know @Richard Drysift is a big fan of the jobes sticks and EWC his garden is one to envy but he is WAY above my level in experience, knowledge, and skill. Trying to keep it somewhat simple and repeatable if possible. Im still a noob trying to get decent so I can work on getting good then try to figure out being able to hold a conversation with someone like Mr. Drysift.
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@myke what are you topdressing with? Any thoughts on doing the top dress kit or mixing some ewc, bus, kraft blend or kashi, and pumice?

and since I tagged the master, if you have an opinion Mr. Drysift I would certainly be interested.

Also fwiw my plan is to keep it covered with a plastic bag,


would you folks load up the bas3.0 with more bus, ewc, kraft blend and or kashi in the beginning as well? Trying to avoid buying each element separately if I can just add the kraft blend.

sorry for all the questions, switching up from the plans of the kashi and em1 makes it a bit more complicated I will say but if similar results can be achieved slightly cheaper also makes the calendar easier to maintain if running perpetual which is end goal in time without having to expand the em1 then that's a win in my book


sorry for being all over the place, trying to have the right plan so I can avoid putting up another help me fix my mistake post lol edited to add doubly apolgies for the double post, that was purely accidental and a typo situation i beleive.
 
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