SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Polyuro

Polyuro

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Xsan said:
I was considering doing the kashi and em1 but am trying to keep costs down if possible. The cost of the em1, molasses, burping jars, and kashi is what brought me to my original question. Trying to see if a similar method would work without the kashi and em1 if the container was large enough and a similar top dress routine was followed. Once at transplant, once a month in veg, and once before flower. Maybe just do the compost, pumice and kashi or craft blend and not do the em1 is suppose?

I know @Richard Drysift is a big fan of the jobes sticks and his garden is one to envy but he is WAY above my level in experience, knowledge, and skill. Trying to keep it somewhat simple and repeatable if possible. Im still a noob trying to get decent so I can work on getting good then try to figure out being able to hold a conversation with someone like Mr. Drysift.
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Em-1 is a bit suspect. I use it and have not used it and results are not blatantly obvious one way or the other so don't think you'll miss out on too much.
Any way u go from what your thinking will work. Watch the link above from BAS. He doesn't use em-1 like Alan adkinson. Also answers all your questions about top dress. Good info in there too about top dressing and filling rez in veg. It's about the only time a sip can fuck up by overwatering.
Good luck. And I still do suggest the jobe's sticks. Super simple and cheap.
 
myke

myke

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I try to keep it simple,I dont do teas etc... just top dress with a dry gaia and home made ewc.Plain tap water.Simple.I buy whats local and is cheap.Im in Canada so limited to what i can buy.Maybe thats a good thing?
 
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Xsan

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Xsan

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Polyuro said:
Em-1 is a bit suspect. I use it and have not used it and results are not blatantly obvious one way or the other so don't think you'll miss out on too much.
Any way u go from what your thinking will work. Watch the link above from BAS. He doesn't use em-1 like Alan adkinson. Also answers all your questions about top dress. Good info in there too about top dressing and filling rez in veg. It's about the only time a sip can fuck up by overwatering.
Good luck. And I still do suggest the jobe's sticks. Super simple and cheap.
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Thank you for pointing out that I missed the link to the videos, this is why I am trying to double check myself before I purchase!
 
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Hash Hound

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i recently won plant of the month on another forum and will be receiving a few lines of synthetic nutes as prizes I have no experience with, Blue Planet 3 part, Prescription Blend 6 part and Remos 7 part. Anyone have experience using any of these? Also anyone using synthetic nutes with their sip and if so are you using soil or coco?

I posted a few of her earlier, but these won the prize.

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Xsan

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myke said:
I try to keep it simple,I dont do teas etc... just top dress with a dry gaia and home made ewc.Plain tap water.Simple.I buy whats local and is cheap.Im in Canada so limited to what i can buy.Maybe thats a good thing?
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I am going to do some homework on the gaia but I this is what im talking about, thank you! My local water is suspect so ro and organic calmag will be my source
 
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Tikbalang

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A lot of this is way beyond me but seems like the next level up in organic. some of you here may be interested in this if you aren’t dabbling already, especially those venturing into bokashi, etc. hope you find it as interesting as I have, here is a link I found on a linked to a supersoil site

Probiotic | Fermentationfarmer

Korean Natural Farming, Living Soil, Compost Tea, Integrated Pest Management, Fermentation, Sprouted Seed Tea, Lactobacillius, LABS, Sub-Irrigated Planters, DIY, SIP, Organic Gardening, www.plantmoreseed.com, https://joegroworegon.wixsite.com/fermentationfarmer
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DankTankerous

DankTankerous

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Just past 6 weeks in flower. The middle I starting to turn purple and within the past couple days, put on more frost. Rubbing the trich’s on the leaves smell like blueberry syrup. She still has at least four more weeks to go. I gave her a compost tea with my freshly harvest worm castings, a couple cup’s of Bu’s, Banana FFJ, LaB, Fishbone Meal, Root’s Organic Cal-Mag (it’s the top dress meal) and Langbeinite. It’s still not the perfect conditions with the buds being so close to the light, lack of space and high temperatures, but I’m doing the best with what I got.

Blue Dream (SC cut) x Chocolate Diesel from Useful Seeds

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Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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DankTankerous said:
Just past 6 weeks in flower. The middle I starting to turn purple and within the past couple days, put on more frost. Rubbing the trich’s on the leaves smell like blueberry syrup. She still has at least four more weeks to go. I gave her a compost tea with my freshly harvest worm castings, a couple cup’s of Bu’s, Banana FFJ, LaB, Fishbone Meal, Root’s Organic Cal-Mag (it’s the top dress meal) and Langbeinite. It’s still not the perfect conditions with the buds being so close to the light, lack of space and high temperatures, but I’m doing the best with what I got.

Blue Dream (SC cut) x Chocolate Diesel from Useful Seeds

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She looks like she's not liking the heat, but she looks good!
 
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Hash Hound

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I have a SIP experiment out back with tomatoes, on the left a double bucket with a deli cup with holes for the wick.
The one on the right has two 1/2" x 8" rope wicks through the bottom of the top bucket, about 3 1/2 in the reservoir and 4 1/2 in the soil.
All used grow room soil amended with Dr Earth Life All Purpose pellets. The SIPs are kicking it, the stalks on both are twice the size of the soil ones with the wick having the edge and a bit taller.

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Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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Xsan said:
I was considering doing the kashi and em1 but am trying to keep costs down if possible. The cost of the em1, molasses, burping jars, and kashi is what brought me to my original question. Trying to see if a similar method would work without the kashi and em1 if the container was large enough and a similar top dress routine was followed. Once at transplant, once a month in veg, and once before flower. Maybe just do the compost, pumice and kashi or craft blend and not do the em1 is suppose?

I know @Richard Drysift is a big fan of the jobes sticks and his garden is one to envy but he is WAY above my level in experience, knowledge, and skill. Trying to keep it somewhat simple and repeatable if possible. Im still a noob trying to get decent so I can work on getting good then try to figure out being able to hold a conversation with someone like Mr. Drysift.
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I probably sound a lot smarter than I really am lol. Keep it simple and get a worm bin; I love my worm factory 360 and it provides all the compost I could ever need. Jobes sticks are real good for a slow release NPK in flower phase but it is supernaturally active compost that drives everything.
 
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Feo309

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Newb question here-

I’m looking at building a couple of SIPs for indoor use, using 16.5 gallon totes.

What are y’all using for covers? Plastic, fabric, recycled garments torn by Prohibitionists every time another state goes legal? LOL

I’m assuming the cover is there to control evaporation in lieu of mulch, does it have any other function?

Thanks in advance for any input.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Feo309 said:
Newb question here-

I’m looking at building a couple of SIPs for indoor use, using 16.5 gallon totes.

What are y’all using for covers? Plastic, fabric, recycled garments torn by Prohibitionists every time another state goes legal? LOL

I’m assuming the cover is there to control evaporation, does it have any other function?

Thanks in advance for any input.
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I believe it's mostly for evaporation, and to help keep light off the soil.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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I'm about to add water to the res of my earthbox for the first time this weekend. Do you add a wetting agent to the water before adding it to the res, or should nothing organic go in the res?
 
Polyuro

Polyuro

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Hollatchaboy said:
I'm about to add water to the res of my earthbox for the first time this weekend. Do you add a wetting agent to the water before adding it to the res, or should nothing organic go in the res?
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Just fill the rez with water. U can put organics in rez and have no problems at all. It's impossible to keep any and all organic matter out if u use peat mixes so take that however u will. I believe one of em-1's first uses was keeping things healthy so if it may concern u put some in once a harvest to clean things up. I would suggest also completely cleaning your sip with bleach every few grows too if no em-1. IMO.
 
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