SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Dreminen169

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Watching this now... our wicking system seems to emulate part of this... but, he talks a ton about the fact that most growers are missing the sand silt and clay that has a lot of beneficial organisms in it... I wonder how we could emulate that in a sip..... could the wick by constructed from a mixture of say... pit or peat moss, sand silt and clay? I wonder....what do you all think?
I’m about to set up a earth box like that to see if it works. I don’t see why it wouldn’t. I may do the ‘E’ layer on top of some soil first to help with wicking
 

Tim Fox

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@Tim Fox you were asking about a thread with earthboxes. Here’s a great grow journal using earthboxes, top dressings, and teas. Great info & I’m sure if you have any questions he would be glad to help out :bigjoint:
thank you, i look forward to reading about the subject
 

Tim Fox

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@Tim Fox you were asking about a thread with earthboxes. Here’s a great grow journal using earthboxes, top dressings, and teas. Great info & I’m sure if you have any questions he would be glad to help out :bigjoint:
i am reading the thread now, he is using living soil, from build a soil , he is not trenching , and he outright says " he wont be using teas" here is a quote "
Trenching in these things is silly, organic or not. Even if it's not a living soil, but more so if it is! LOL! At one time EB said to trench the dolomite, but they now say to mix it into the top 6 inches. Better recommendation, but still silly. It should be mixed everywhere except the wicking pockets.

I just can't see any reason to stray from normal organic practices in using Earthboxes. The only thing I won't be doing is making teas for the EBs. "


he is growing in 2 earth boxes and 2 fabric sacks a total of 4 plants, he is putting teas on the plants that are in the fabric sacks, he is commenting how his soil is all mixed up with worms and microbes from the start with the 2 earthboxes,,, its a good read


Mars Hydro grow journal: WildBill does Hubbabubbasmelloscope in EarthBoxes under MarsHydro SP3000 | Page 5 | The Autoflower Network
 
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Tim Fox

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its bas
That stuff doesn’t affect the taste of the buds?
its bascically baking soda,, no chemicals it alters the ph level on the leaves so powdery mildew cant grow,,, i had a choice,, either loose the crop to powdery mildew or take action,, there is still 3 weeks left in the grow , wont be any left by that time, besides baking soda has an inert taste, i have used it once before a couple of years ago when i had PM , didnt effect them in any way other than kill the PM,, its good stuff
 

Dreminen169

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its bascically baking soda,, no chemicals it alters the ph level on the leaves so powdery mildew cant grow,,, i had a choice,, either loose the crop to powdery mildew or take action,, there is still 3 weeks left in the grow , wont be any left by that time, besides baking soda has an inert taste, i have used it once before a couple of years ago when i had PM , didnt effect them in any way other than kill the PM,, its good stuff
I’ll have to pick some up for Veg as a preventative. I’m assuming it’s organic?
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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its bascically baking soda,, no chemicals it alters the ph level on the leaves so powdery mildew cant grow,,, i had a choice,, either loose the crop to powdery mildew or take action,, there is still 3 weeks left in the grow , wont be any left by that time, besides baking soda has an inert taste, i have used it once before a couple of years ago when i had PM , didnt effect them in any way other than kill the PM,, its good stuff
You could also always wash your buds if you think there might be any baking soda left... I have personally never had the ... cajhones to dunk my freshly pic plant in a five gallon bucket of water but a lot of people swear by it.
 

Humanrob

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Just 'for the record'... Greencure is actually potassium bicarbonate, similar to but different than baking soda, which is sodium bicarbonate. I only mention this because you I don't think spraying a plant with baking soda would have the same affect (if anyone was thinking of making a home-made version). And it does rinse off easily in a post harvest wash.
 

Hash Hound

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I washed my buds all the time when using doc buds high brix grow method.
Baking soda and Lemon juice half cup each if I remember correct, rinse and rinse again, shake the moisture off and hang to dry.
And I at least rinse off outdoor plants . You wouldn't believe the bugs and bug poop that comes off a plant.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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I washed my buds all the time when using doc buds high brix grow method.
Baking soda and Lemon juice half cup each if I remember correct, rinse and rinse again, shake the moisture off and hang to dry.
And I at least rinse off outdoor plants . You wouldn't believe the bugs and bug poop that comes off a plant.
I have heard a lot of good things about it... maybe I will have to try some next harvest
 

Tim Fox

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I washed my buds all the time when using doc buds high brix grow method.
Baking soda and Lemon juice half cup each if I remember correct, rinse and rinse again, shake the moisture off and hang to dry.
And I at least rinse off outdoor plants . You wouldn't believe the bugs and bug poop that comes off a plant.
For sure, buds washing at harvest is a go!!! I like your wash recipe, thank you,
 

Nwtexan

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Hello everyone. I ended up here after @NewGrower2011 posted his SIP setup in a post I made about doing grows in fabric pots with Coots mix. Read most of the thread and saw a bunch of different solutions for how to implement these. I'm looking into the best way to incorporate a SIP style grow with living/no till soil and bigger tubs.
I've found a couple of tubs that would fit perfectly in my space- 30 gallon https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-30-Gal-Tote-Ink-2130-4415707/311021547

I would love to hear any thoughts on both how well this works with soil as well as any tips on best construction and how to keep track of water levels and overflow in an indoor situation.

Any issues? Thing you would change?

Trying to take a step forward for my next cycle
 

myke

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You have to decide what’s in the future. No till is best in a giant bed like 4x4. 150 gallons + of soil.
SIPs seam to work really well. I’m 2 weeks in on my first. Amazing growth. 30 gallon is huge and can be done no till but in the end a raised bed is the corvette of no till.
 

Nwtexan

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You have to decide what’s in the future. No till is best in a giant bed like 4x4. 150 gallons + of soil.
SIPs seam to work really well. I’m 2 weeks in on my first. Amazing growth. 30 gallon is huge and can be done no till but in the end a raised bed is the corvette of no till.
Are you talking building or buying a raised bed to fit my space? I'm in a tent. With the soil, that would make a permanent space/
I'm looking at using my indoor space until early summer when temps get warmer and then continuing when fall comes. The 30 gallons would be a little bit more modular.
What are you using?
 

myke

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Are you talking building or buying a raised bed to fit my space? I'm in a tent. With the soil, that would make a permanent space/
I'm looking at using my indoor space until early summer when temps get warmer and then continuing when fall comes. The 30 gallons would be a little bit more modular.
What are you using?
I grow in a mix of hydro and organic so no till won’t work for me unless I re do my grow area.
Back a few pages my sips are there. As said im new to sips and organic. I’m currently in my second organic and transplanted 5 gal girls into my sips cause watering was my nemesis the first grow. If you have your soil ready to go and plants I’d say try the sip. Very easy to construct.
Long term if your going to continue to grow and no till is something you want to try your better off starting now. It takes a few cycles to get the bed to be the super soil that everyone talks about. Check out the no till thread. Lots of great people around.
 

myke

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Also I’ll add to start cooking extra soil now. I started back in September last year. Every 3 weeks or so I build 15 gallons of soil and let cook. I now have 30 gallons from last crop that’s been re amended and cooking. I also have 60 more gallons that’s ready for my spring planting. Keep trying different mixes/ amendments eventually you’ll end up with over 100 gallons of some great soil. Oh and if don’t have one. A worm farm is a must. Good luck.
 

Nwtexan

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Also I’ll add to start cooking extra soil now. I started back in September last year. Every 3 weeks or so I build 15 gallons of soil and let cook. I now have 30 gallons from last crop that’s been re amended and cooking. I also have 60 more gallons that’s ready for my spring planting. Keep trying different mixes/ amendments eventually you’ll end up with over 100 gallons of some great soil. Oh and if don’t have one. A worm farm is a must. Good luck.
I do have a worm farm! I’ve got some “coots mix” that I built around some old soil. Used that as an experiment to see how the amendments would work with it. I have an experiment with some clones in a few different type soils to see how they do.
I’ll be mixing up my real mix next week. I have it in a plastic swimming pool outside until I need it
 
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