what changes have YOU made and seen the biggest improvement in quality?

Kite High

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--i was under the assumption that it wasn't the purple spectrum (ultra violet) that degraded THC+ but the visible spectrum (blue/red/green) of sunlight.. ?
moreso the blue...also of interest is uv stimulates all the same thing as blue light with the sole exception of photosynthesizing...some suspect it even is used as is uv in the synthesis of thc from the precursor canabinoids...

adding 300-400 uw/cm2 uvb to the plants environment was the best single change which greatly increased potency, creepiness and trippiness
 

Kite High

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Come on fellas!!! Step away from arguing now.



The biggest change that I made was creating a near perfect environment and having almost complete control over every aspect of temp, RH, air exchange and light.


Keeping day and night temp differences very minimal less than 4C will help to reduce stretching during transition.




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as will increased rh, lower temps and low P content in nute regimen...and blue light of course
 

Kite High

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Ub,

ive seen you say multiple times, electrolytes, it's what plants crave.

When I think electrolytes, I think of Gatorade advertisements. I think of salts. Organic growing is totally against any salt. What's am I missing?
organic smanic...poppycock $$ making hype
 

Kite High

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- +1 for defoliating. Took me quite a few grows and losing out on some good yields to really see the difference what taking the fan leaves off can do. Really lets the lower buds thicken up and become nice useable nugs. I don't post much but I tried to chime in on a conversation about removing fan leaves on this site and the amount of people that roasted me for saying it made my crops better was pretty funny. I'm not re posting articles or some bs I found on the internet I'm saying I've done it and got better yields, somehow that's not good enough.

- KISS - keep it simple stupid and get a ppm meter. I have to constantly remind myself that more isn't better. Its so easy to think that more nutes = more bud. I still catch myself doing this, and laugh when I do. I've gone from having close to 10 different nutrients being added down to 3 or 4 and getting better results and saving $.
that goes directly against every botanical fact...but if you like it do it...I love leaves ON a plant
 

Kite High

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Wait... let me get this straight... are you saying blue light spectrum degrades THC?
yes that is it...if too intense...but what do I know..That I love to grow and use this plant

And quality gear is a must...but the most important thing is all of it...total optimal environment to bring out what it encoded in the genes...that is the best..i have invested $15k and 1000's of research and experimentation hours to finally get to there
 

Krondizzel

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yes that is it...if too intense...but what do I know..That I love to grow and use this plant

And quality gear is a must...but the most important thing is all of it...total optimal environment to bring out what it encoded in the genes...that is the best..i have invested $15k and 1000's of research and experimentation hours to finally get to there

Fully agree.


I have run an all MH grow and didn't see a problem with it. The all HPS grow did much better though. The combination, even better.
 

legallyflying

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yes that is it...if too intense...but what do I know..That I love to grow and use this plant

And quality gear is a must...but the most important thing is all of it...total optimal environment to bring out what it encoded in the genes...that is the best..i have invested $15k and 1000's of research and experimentation hours to finally get to there
then you should try defoliating. Outdoors..yeah no big deal, keep them all on. Inside however, absolutely pull some leaves off. No comparison at all in terms of density and overall yield.
 

Trousers

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I stopped paying way too much for ph pens that crap out after a while and went back to ph drops, which are very accurate and do not need to be calibrated.

I check the ppm of my coco run off and adjust feeding accordingly.
 

Relaxed

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A ph pen on ebay is about 30 bucks. Keep the tip moist and a simple dip in cleaning solution and I've had one for +3 yrs. Is that so hard? Drops are for the pool cleaner guy.
 

tallen

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I stopped paying way too much for ph pens that crap out after a while and went back to ph drops, which are very accurate and do not need to be calibrated.

I check the ppm of my coco run off and adjust feeding accordingly.
Started with the drops until I walked out of my room (hps) and the thing changed color (to a different ph reading) under cfl light. Then I walked over under an incandescent bulb just to see and it changed again! 3 different bulbs, 3 different readings. I immediately went and got a pen and never looked back.
 

Krondizzel

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Started with the drops until I walked out of my room (hps) and the thing changed color (to a different ph reading) under cfl light. Then I walked over under an incandescent bulb just to see and it changed again! 3 different bulbs, 3 different readings. I immediately went and got a pen and never looked back.
Now that you mention it... I thought I was losing my mind when the colors would change. Now it makes sense
 

legallyflying

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My $20 milwaukie pen lasted a month. Then I had another pen that lasted a year. Bought an HG pen and I am going on 2 years and its pretty solid drift wise.

Ph drops are for pool guys.. And maybe dirt farmers
 

Kite High

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Started with the drops until I walked out of my room (hps) and the thing changed color (to a different ph reading) under cfl light. Then I walked over under an incandescent bulb just to see and it changed again! 3 different bulbs, 3 different readings. I immediately went and got a pen and never looked back.
I havent checked pH at all in almost 2v years...but I use amended soiless as my medium
 

Kite High

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then you should try defoliating. Outdoors..yeah no big deal, keep them all on. Inside however, absolutely pull some leaves off. No comparison at all in terms of density and overall yield.
You know what LF, I will do that again in these new growrooms to KNOW for myself once again...have done it in past setup and leaves on won...I will do ity once again in the current setups next run...thank you for opening my mind again...there as always is only ONE way to KNOW...do it and see for one's self...but if you look at my current setup you will see that ALL of the planrt is more than well lit...but I will do a comparison to know fopr myself as this is a new setup

Thank you
 

beenthere

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the surge of florigen is what causes the stretch...so in your scenario it would induce more stretch not limit it
Not true my friend, I've been doing this for quite some time and it does not promote stretching.
Now why it doesn't, I'll admit I don't have the answer, it might be from temp drops for all I know!
 

Kite High

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Not true my friend, I've been doing this for quite some time and it does not promote stretching.
Now why it doesn't, I'll admit I don't have the answer, it might be from temp drops for all I know!
please do not misinterpret my words as I do not believe you are seeing what you state. Just not aware of this is all. Just may prove worthy of a try n see for myself.
 

redfrogs

Active Member
Organics for the taste!
Dual spectrum HID/ CFL+LEDs for the yield!
SCrOG!
Molasses and seaweed as the treats!
 
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