Coco Growers Unite!

mrduke

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anyone use the Botanicare - moisture mix coco? it has humic acid mixed in, which is very interesting. that may help with the mag problems you get in coco(coir/pith). humic acid is supposed to be a natural chelater(sp)
yeah its great i actully use the airation mix same thing just more perlite. i still add 2-4 ml cal/mag never any probs.
 

BeaverHuntr

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anyone use the Botanicare - moisture mix coco? it has humic acid mixed in, which is very interesting. that may help with the mag problems you get in coco(coir/pith). humic acid is supposed to be a natural chelater(sp)

I didnt know that. Last weekend I marinated my Canna Coco with Cal/mag this weekend I will be putting it in the pots!
 

nappynate

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First time coco grower here, just transplanted these into coco from deep water culture. the seedlings were in rockwool cubes. My reason for switching is because I had one big tub and it would be hard to seperate the nutrient needs for the Critical Mass (that are a few days into flowering) and the AK47 (which are babies, obviously). I figured this would simplify things. I'm a big noob, any tips would be cool.

2 on the left are Critical Mass, the babies are AK47
I really like the node structure of the bigger one. So many branches all tightly clustered in, I see it being a pillar of bud when all's said and done. Hopefully, anyway.

Dr. Pepper bottles makes your plants grow faster, right..?

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loophole68

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First time coco grower here, just transplanted these into coco from deep water culture. the seedlings were in rockwool cubes. My reason for switching is because I had one big tub and it would be hard to seperate the nutrient needs for the Critical Mass (that are a few days into flowering) and the AK47 (which are babies, obviously). I figured this would simplify things. I'm a big noob, any tips would be cool.

2 on the left are Critical Mass, the babies are AK47
I really like the node structure of the bigger one. So many branches all tightly clustered in, I see it being a pillar of bud when all's said and done. Hopefully, anyway.

Dr. Pepper bottles makes your plants grow faster, right..?

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Looks healthy. and is that your final pots after the transplant?
How does the Dr.Pepper bottles make plant grow faster :???:
:peace:
 

matatan

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roots organic coco palms,
http://www.hydroponics.net/i/136847
i just found it... is this a new release?
i planned on using bcuzz or nutrifield 70/ roots organic coco30 but just might keep all in one brand with this coco palms, from the description its exactly what i can use.. thoughts?
 

Thedillestpickle

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you dont need coco specific nutes. people have even adapted the lucas formula to work with coco, heads 6/9 mix. i also hear and see that gh floranova is pretty kick ass for a one part for coco. after im done with this jug of CNS i'll be switching my coco feed to GH FN just to see how it performs. but i really do need to get into these NutriPlus nutes i got from the last show. freaking have two boxes and a whole mess of other nutes collecting dust in the garage, lol.
I just looked into it, sound good.
It has a good NPK, and not too light on the K which is needed in a higher amount for coco.
I am assuming your referring to the FloraNova Bloom.
I may try it, I will have to dig around for some grow journals first though
 

Thedillestpickle

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I just looked into it, sound good.
It has a good NPK, and not too light on the K which is needed in a higher amount for coco.
I am assuming your referring to the FloraNova Bloom.
I may try it, I will have to dig around for some grow journals first though
One downside that I just thought of is that I have read that GH is not very pH stable.
HomeBrewer used to use GH in his ebb and flow tables and eventually switched over to DynaGrow because of its better pH stability(among other reasons)
 

Thedillestpickle

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Ok... so it appears I am competely confused... this website- http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/CocoCoirSafeProducts.php
explains that coco is chock full of Potassium, and that you need to use nutrients that account for the high potassium content of the coco

I have been using House and Garden Cocos nutrients, and the NPK is 5.5-3.4-9.1
Thats a pretty high K(potassium) value for a nutrient that is tailored specifically for coco, and supposedly requires less K. In fact that's really really high in K

Can anyone help clear that up, as it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make sense of this anytime soon

Also something that would help me out alot is if anyone could list off the NPK of their coco specific nutrients, so I can get a broader picture of what the NPK's for coco should look like

Thanks
 

matatan

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Hey coco lovers question for ya, I am using coco now and loving tthe flavors I'm getting. I hand water whenever needed just to point of some run off. Now I want to switch to flood n drain to simplify things and be able to produce more. I plan on using airpots5gal, 4plants per 4x4tray. How will coco perform vs hydroton in this setup? Taste wise I know coco hands down better but how about vigor and total yield?

What do u guys think about adding airstones on the bottom of the tray to turn on when flooding occurs, will that oxyginated nutrient water get thru coco?
 

BeaverHuntr

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Ok... so it appears I am competely confused... this website- http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/CocoCoirSafeProducts.php
explains that coco is chock full of Potassium, and that you need to use nutrients that account for the high potassium content of the coco

I have been using House and Garden Cocos nutrients, and the NPK is 5.5-3.4-9.1
Thats a pretty high K(potassium) value for a nutrient that is tailored specifically for coco, and supposedly requires less K. In fact that's really really high in K

Can anyone help clear that up, as it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make sense of this anytime soon

Also something that would help me out alot is if anyone could list off the NPK of their coco specific nutrients, so I can get a broader picture of what the NPK's for coco should look like

Thanks
Just start precharging your coco so you dont have to worry about it. Hell I just precharged my Canna Coco regardless of how good it is out of the bag one less thing to add and you wont be scratching your head so much.
 

Thedillestpickle

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Just start precharging your coco so you dont have to worry about it. Hell I just precharged my Canna Coco regardless of how good it is out of the bag one less thing to add and you wont be scratching your head so much.
I'm not talking about my media, I use botanicare and it is grade A Ive had no issues

What I'm talking about is the insane NPK ratio of H&G's Cocos nutrients
If you add up the NPK from the A and B you get roughly 11-7-18

Here's how H&G describe their product-
"House & Garden A&B coco base nutrient requires an extremely precise composition of the various minerals. House & Garden coco nutrients are coco specific nutrients which contain far less potassium than other nutrients to take into account the high levels of potassium released from the coco media during the growing cycle."

Well that is clearly just plain out wrong. The potassium value for their cocos nutrients are through the roof!
 

jimmy1life

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Yea explaims why i always burn my plants with gmb ph perfect i though bout taking the grow NPK 1-0-4 out of my feedings. micro is 2-0-0 bloom 1-3-4, plus about 5 to 7 ml ph down GH p acid.. Is there a ph down that doesnt leave tons of salt residue by any chance?
 

Thedillestpickle

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Yea explaims why i always burn my plants with gmb ph perfect i though bout taking the grow NPK 1-0-4 out of my feedings. micro is 2-0-0 bloom 1-3-4, plus about 5 to 7 ml ph down GH p acid.. Is there a ph down that doesnt leave tons of salt residue by any chance?

hmmm tons of salt residue from your pH down? never heard of that

My pH down is phosphoric acid, but there's no way I'm using enough of it to effect my NPK. Are you seeing clouding occuring when you first mix the pH down into your solution? I've never heard of that before and I'd say it's either your using too highly concentrated a pH down and should dilute it(I have 85% phosphoric and I dilute it 1:20 with wate). or your nutrients are just weird and you should use something different.

What ratio of those nutrients are you using in bloom? that does sound like alot of K... but I dunno anymore because apparently the H&G works wonders?
 
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