guy incognito
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Yes jonathan swift is great.
No one said it was a popular or easy choice. I don't feel like their inability to practice safe sex should become my financial burden. Sure its fucked up but its the truth. I shouldn't have to pay for your lack of human decency and parenting skills.So your proposed action is to punish innocent children by taking away their only source of food?
Kind of an insane policy, it's not like they live somewhere else.No one said it was a popular or easy choice. I don't feel like their inability to practice safe sex should become my financial burden. Sure its fucked up but its the truth. I shouldn't have to pay for your lack of human decency and parenting skills.
U act is if I said elimante welfare. A responsible parent will have no trouble passing a drug test
So you are going to punish the child because the parent is irresponsible? A child with hard working and responsible parents deserves to eat more than a child of scum bag drug addicts?No one said it was a popular or easy choice. I don't feel like their inability to practice safe sex should become my financial burden. Sure its fucked up but its the truth. I shouldn't have to pay for your lack of human decency and parenting skills.
U act is if I said elimante welfare. A responsible parent will have no trouble passing a drug test
I get that. Perhaps it's a mark of my age: my passions recede and leave my reasons in sharper relief.Insane......ly well put. Like I said with abortion its a battle within myself so I try and avoid having that battle with others as I'm not entirely sure where I stand.. too case by case. And again as u said extremely well. There's no way to reform abortion without any implication of religious preference. Based on those two facts its not something I advocate but again, my mind does like the thought of making someone convince 7 others they should be allowed to end a life. (Sick I know. But to me its no sicker than abortion itself.) My biggest Issue is he internal struggle between what intellect thinks and emotion feels. I suspect we all do it just seems perhaodls I allow mine to have more effect than necessary on me.
Thank you for the tremendous compliments.I'm honestly envious of he means.in which you verse your arguments lol. U make solid points without it being personal. I like your rationale.
Another has already raised the key argument. I don't see good in punishing the children for the parents' misdeeds. Welfare is inherently inefficient, and it presents the underprivileged (which in the States really means undermonied) with the greatest game available; play the system. Humans are instinctive seekers after advantage, and their games evolve as fast as the system generates immune responses. It feeds back into why I believe socialism is doomed to fail. cnIn terms of welfare well just have to agree to disagree. Entitlements in general are growing insanely ridiculous IMO. Veterans and the elderly should be cared for undoubtedly but otherwise u should need to piss. If u lived a long working life and retired or risked your life and limb for my liberties u better believe I will do for u as I can when I can. I always but for militaryif they happen to be where I'm eating or gassing up. I guess what I'm getting at is my idea of governments role is very unconventional in comparison to most.
I feel like I'm talking in circles here lol. This is why I don't get into these things I lack the attention spanand vocabulary to properly explain myself or stay on a particular topic lol
Amen brother u said it. Truth is ugly ain't it? Now I'm being sarcastic to a degree obviously here. I'm not for cutting welfare in all. But regulations need to be much tighter. Abuse is rampant in my area and that's undeniable. Its not about what the kids deserve be clear. Were that the case they deserve better parents. Its.a complex issue with no one real.solution sure. "Casualties of war" if u will. Its not that they don't deserve food its that they were unfortunately born to scumbag parents that have lost (IMO) all morals. It takes a sick person to take advantage of something like welfare. In which case most people are products of their environment therefore its not extremely far fetched to assume that they will be no different. If u get mites do u let them be and hope they evolve into carnivores or do u stop them at the ssource? (EXTREME generalization of course.. hate to pose a slippery slope argument here but hey.. wtf right lol.)So you are going to punish the child because the parent is irresponble?
In that case why have welfare at all? Survival of the fittest. You aren't responsible enough to feed your child then your genetic lineage will die out.
The survivors will become rugged individualists that build perpetual motion machines.So you are going to punish the child because the parent is irresponsible? A child with hard working and responsible parents deserves to eat more than a child of scum bag drug addicts?
In that case why have welfare at all? Survival of the fittest. You aren't responsible enough to feed your child then your genetic lineage will die out.
think Im gunna jump in on this later this evening
kids are awake and constantly distracting me. got lots going on today. the great thing is though... Im on both sides of both arguments in that you find reality and undeniable truth n facttld! Why wait brother? Hop on in. I'm loving this thread. Good vibe to it. Plenty of light humor and sarcasm but plenty respectful and informative. The waters warm take a dip.
This fkin Guy. Lol. So passive aggressive it makes me feel soothingly enraged lol. Jp.I get that. Perhaps it's a mark of my age: my passions recede and leave my reasons in sharper relief.
But I see a colossal and (to me so far) irreconcilable conflict that underlies all politics; compassion v. practicality. It has me abdicating, choosing the centrist's nonposition. Socialism I view as humane, compassionate, and not humanly practicable. it runs headlong against the walls of human nature. (A bit more below.)
The other extreme, highlighted in this country by certain subschools of libertarianism, removes the express obligation to care for our neighbors and returns us to a time when individual failure made individual hardship, suffering, and perhaps death a likely outcome. It's an age-old problem: you have a walled village with enough stores to see its populace through, but the countryside is beset by starving hordes. Bar the gate yes/no? Thank you for the tremendous compliments.
Another has already raised the key argument. I don't see good in punishing the children for the parents' misdeeds. Welfare is inherently inefficient, and it presents the underprivileged (which in the States really means undermonied) with the greatest game available; play the system. Humans are instinctive seekers after advantage, and their games evolve as fast as the system generates immune responses. It feeds back into why I believe socialism is doomed to fail. cn
Understandable. Argument? More of a cheerfully agreeable learning experience for me lol.kids are awake and constantly distracting me. got lots going on today. the great thing is though... Im on both sides of both arguments in that you find reality and undeniable truth n fact
Got any rick bobby memes? U seem to have a pic for everything lol. Anything along the lines of "what did that do for ya? That just blow.ur mind?"Do bad cats go to doggie heaven? This one has cost me some sleep. cn