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p59teitel

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G Bear said:
was only able to get the monterey bt at the local shop. question: should i go ahead and spray even though i’ve seen no evidence of bugs etc? or hold off
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I’ve been spraying B.t. since August pretty regularly, even though all I’ve seen are a few small loopers. Did find a few small spots of botrytis on my one cross last week, so the caterpillars are definitely out there waiting to munch - and I can only wonder how much damage I’d have had without spraying. Since B.t. has zero negative effect on growth, appearance, taste or strength, for me it’s become a standard preventative during flowering and I apply it every five days (and sooner after any rain).
 
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p59teitel

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BigSco508 said:
If your growing for personal smoke it's not always a good thing to have 8ft x 8ft plants with coke bottle cola's a lot of bud rot can ruin those big fat cola's and they only look good in a picture.

I find way to much vegetation to trichome production for me is of putting unless your making oils or edibles which in my honest opinion is all you should be doing with outdoors to begin with but not everyone has the indoor space i get it ! Just saying sometimes bigger isn't always better .
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Agreed those fat chunky colas are a big challenge to get through to harvest - it’s just so easy for some little half-inch caterpillars to hide in there munching away for days before the damage is evident. And I’ll admit to being concerned in July about how I was going to manage what I thought would be ten foot monster plants (never imagining I’d have some over fifteen feet, WTF). Fortunately the big Tirah have a very open and airy branch structure, with more spread out flower sites compared to the compact Afghan plants I’ve grown.

Last year my two Waziri females had entirely different structures - one was compact and produced chunky tight colas that were a challenge to manage through to harvest (lost about 10% to rot), and the other was much more stretchy and open, and easily made it to the end of October with very few issues. As an aside, oddly enough even though they were quite different phenos that produced different looking and smelling flowers, the effects are the same.

I also think that the plants from Central Asia I grow are better conditioned to handle the outdoor elements than a lot of the indoor hybrids people try to grow outside, especially here in SE Mass where we can pretty much guarantee the latter part of Sept. and Oct. will be rainy and foggy.
 
G Bear

G Bear

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i only grabbed a 32 oz spray bottle. probably end up using the whole thing on my 4 plants 3-4’ tall?
 
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p59teitel

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I get the quart size concentrate on Amazon and use a gallon pump sprayer. For what you have I’d get the concentrate and use a quart mister/sprayer. The concentrate is good for two years.
 
G Bear

G Bear

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ok so i ordered the monterey BT online and picked up at store. didn’t notice they gave me the RTU until i got home. only got the small spray bottle. call it good and buy the right stuff next time? or is this stuff a waste? or is it the same stuff just not the concentrate? sorry for dumb questions.3B3DD8AA-AFA1-4A26-BCA7-158A7B5BA5C9.jpeg
 
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Kerowacked

Kerowacked

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Poco56 said:
Mine are looking somewhat similar, but not as advanced yellowing as that 2nd photo in particular. Everything I read says it’s normal given it almost ready state. I have noticed a slowing of that yellowing after I feed too. I’ve just been plucking them off if there more than 50% gone. :confused:
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Seems like they burn out from sunlight, uv shade might help but i’m rushing the finish anyway.
 
BigSco508

BigSco508

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Kerowacked said:
Seems like they burn out from sunlight, uv shade might help but i’m rushing the finish anyway.
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Did you spray them during the daylight with treatments can cause burning but that is not what that looks like more like the plant is just finishing and cannibalizing the chlorophyll in the leaves which what most people call fade. Although it looks like it might of be overwatered at some point as well.
 
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