General Betray Us?.............

pandabear said:

I honor your service med, like I said I could be wrong or you could be wrong. lets hope im right for the our sake, no? and then lets see how it goes, you guys could be so wrong about this, and I may the one who is so wrong.

but i think this whole movement is re-living the past Hippy generation and Vietnam. this is a totally different scenario. the baby boomers, i hate to say are some of the most egotistical people around and are fully self involved with themselves and their oh so precious bucking on the system free this, free that, now we all smoke crack.

its getting old and so r you. god they are still talkin about all this bullshit its been almost 40 fuckin years man!! all you here about our generation is we are the shitty X & Y poop on never amount to nothin generation, im so tired of you guys acting like your generation was the bees knees cuz it wasn't.

half of you have succumbed to the "man" and left those childish dreams behind with them. the other half been so drugged out they still think this is the 60's and seventies, meanwhile the generation x'ers have been brought up in broken homes with drug infested parents, and now these same people are trying to relive their failed revolution in the nuclear twilight of our generation!!! fuck that, it is our time to shine, we are the ones fighting now, quit trying to shit on us just cuz your government shat on you 40 years ago

and we are the product of the hippy generation and we all carry guns, and pull the triggers. the dream is over. viva le France!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok Im am getting ready for the onslaught

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medicineman said:

LOOK, fuck all the my war your war shit. it was never our wars. That's what I'm saying. For fucks sake man wake up. It's the power brokers on this planet fighting for supremecy using our bodies. You'll never see them with an M-16 in their hands, yet they have more blood on their hands than any soldier ever had. The wars are not about us, we are the pawns, Wake up, I'm begging you, wake up.

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pandabear said:

man oh man, ok so bush was a rich man before he became president. can you show me any evidence that he is fighting this war for money?? , you are being really silly if you think about what you just said. so they are doing all this for somting other, than protecting my wifes and my little babies interests. if so you better have somthing very good to convince me sir. because I count on the United states of america to provide a good and prosperous life for my children, and ill grab and M16 today to do it.

and really Id like you to tell the comment to all the senaors and congressmen whos sons and duaghters out there fighting right now while you sit and type of thier disgrace.

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Chrisuperfly said:

Unfortunately in this war, your damned if you do and your damned if you don't by the media. Everyone seems very fast to hang generals out to dry these days, maybe its fashionable, I wish I knew.

I have had the privelage of serving 3 times in three different combat zones under probably the single best commanding general in modern history. Lt. Gen James Mattis who was crucified for calling it like he sees it and keeping Marines morale high. I remember him speaking to Task Force 58 at Khandahar Airport on Christmas 2001 and saying, "We will keep killing until the killing is done." Now before all you tree huggers fly off the handle on that statement let me put things into perspective and I don't expect anyone who has not ever been in that type of environment to understand. Task Force 58 was basically a pack of wild dogs, we didn't fuck around and we knew why we were there, to kill and thats the bottom line. To make a long story short we was chastised for saying that men who force women to wear a veil and beat them if they don't, deserve to die and he would enjoy killing them. I am in agreement with this statement and if you're not well convert to Islam and go smack your wife around, if that makes you feel better. Lt. Gen Mattis was then told by the commandant of the Marine Corps to watch what he says and be more politically correct.

Now to get to Gen. Petraeus, the man went before congress and was politically correct. There are things about this war and war in general that the public does not need to know. Why? Because YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW WAR IS FOUGHT, NEEDS TO BE FOUGHT, AND THE SACRIFICES BY THOSE THAT DO FIGHT. And is now being hung by a government that gave him his stars and a country that he has sworn to serve and protect not to mention the media but, hey if the news reports it, it has to be right, right? People that get all there information from news reports are idiotic and stupid. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Its funny, I do not like movies about war because its almost like painting an angel, nobody ever gets it right because there is more to it than black and white, there is feeling involved.

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7xstall said:

i see what you're saying, but you're still on the verge of not getting what the job of the general (in general) is all about. they can and do quit when they don't like something and they also have worked very hard to get where they are. we need to give the man enough credit to think that he just might actually believe in what he's doing! he has a Ph.D. from princeton, i believe, and could leave the military today to make much more money if that's what he wanted to do... he doing this work for the country, he's not working under the same assumptions that you are, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Garden Knowm said:

the opposite of death is birth..

the opposite if LIFE - there is no opposite.. life IS..

and the choice to live or not to live is NOT a choice.. it is an illusion that ONE can see through.. or one can defend ONEs own ignorance...

iloveyou

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pandabear said:

man oh man, ok so bush was a rich man before he became president. can you show me any evidence that he is fighting this war for money?? , you are being really silly if you think about what you just said. so they are doing all this for somting other, than protecting my wifes and my little babies interests. if so you better have somthing very good to convince me sir. because I count on the United states of america to provide a good and prosperous life for my children, and ill grab and M16 today to do it.

and really Id like you to tell the comment to all the senaors and congressmen whos sons and duaghters out there fighting right now while you sit and type of thier disgrace.

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ViRedd said:

"the opposite of death is birth."

The opposite of birth is infertility. The opposite of death is life.

Vi

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pandabear said:

man oh man, ok so bush was a rich man before he became president. can you show me any evidence that he is fighting this war for money?? , you are being really silly if you think about what you just said. so they are doing all this for somting other, than protecting my wifes and my little babies interests. if so you better have somthing very good to convince me sir. because I count on the United states of america to provide a good and prosperous life for my children, and ill grab and M16 today to do it.

and really Id like you to tell the comment to all the senaors and congressmen whos sons and duaghters out there fighting right now while you sit and type of thier disgrace.

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Garden Knowm said:

mr. cult..

in the begining of the tao te ching.. la tzu says...something like...

he who speaks does not know..

and then somebody responded,

well then mr. lao... why did you write a book of 5000 words..

and mr lao..

said... I am pointing at the moon and you are staring at my hand...


guess where V is looking? LOL

iloveyou

It does not matter weather I am right or wrong... I AM POINTING at what IS...

iloveyou


we can explore this furthe if you would like.. but we should start a new thread in another forum...

Keep watching your MIND... it is a great practice and you are lucky ot have a PRACTICE...

cheers

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medicineman said:

Bush is and was the son of a billionaire, George H.W.Bush. They (The Bush's) belong to a secret cult known as skull and Bones. This cult controls about 80% of the worlds money. Nothing major happens in this world with some input from these people. Things are not so simple and they are not cut and dried (Them and us) bad guys and good guys. there is a lot of shit going on behind closed doors that we never hear about. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the powers could care less what the people think. They own the TV stations (News media) so the news is what they want you to see. Now as for the politicians sons and daughters fighting in Iraq, I only know of two, McCains son and another new senator that is totally anti-war. There are 555 + congressmen, so you tell me how many have kids fighting in Iraq? And goddamn it, stop with the I disgrace the troops thing, it makes me feel like yanking your fucking tongue out.

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good thing you were able to see through this deception man or we may have never known the truth.

FilthyFletch said:

Liberals and Democrates the selfish wing of politics that worry about me me me and not the public public public. I used to get mad reading the crap that liberals and democrates spew now it just scares me there are so many idiots allowed to walk freely amongst us lol They have no clue

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pandabear said:

so is the reason that the "controled media" always says anti bush stuff because they are trying to throw us off the trail of the "power brokers" strangle hold on the media? Tell me about your Idol, Rupert Murdoch, that right wing Nazi from down under, that owns a major share of world media. I'll bet he's telling it straight , eh. NOT.

good thing you were able to see through this deception man or we may have never known the truth.

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