nuglets
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thanks man. that's where i stay too. 84-86 with the lights on and down to 76 with them off.
Venting question, Do i need to with A/C
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thanks man. that's where i stay too. 84-86 with the lights on and down to 76 with them off.
cavorkybuds420
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Ok so if you run co2 your not to vent your room out at all. Ha ha ha this guy is trolling. A decent controller setup isnt cheap but reduce co2 waste by far. As for Beaverhuntr Why get in an blog battle over ac units. All big rooms run controllers and cooling units not ac units straight same thing they put in comemrcial kitchens for there walk in coolers. that is cooling a fat room down argue that.
cavorkybuds420
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You want temps at 75, if running DWC 65 prefferd and really should try and get as low as possible. If temps are high buds are fluffy. If you dropp temps your buds wont have as much "shrinking" affect.
nuglets
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i wouldn't even know where to start on your comments. that laughter you hear is not us laughing with you. we're laughing AT you.
cavorkybuds420
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laughter? its a internet blog. On top of that run a dwc bucket system with room temps at 85 and tell me how it works. Also ya heat causes stretch wich causes your node spacing to be to far from another. wich wont be bud clusters. All i speak is from experience.
nuglets
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wow! not really sure where to start cause just about everything you have said so far is incorrect. let's take it one thing at a time in hopes that you can follow.
you don't adjust the temps in a room to maintain water temps in a hydro setup. that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. you use chillers, coils, frozen water bottles, etc... to keep the water cool. plants require certain temps for optimal growth. that temp for marijuana is 73-78 without co2 in the room and 83-88 with co2 in the room. the fact that you don't know this shows me your inexperience. plants actually require warmer temps to be able to process higher than average co2 levels introduced by generators or burners. try using google sometime.
you can vent your room while using co2 but often times it requires you purchasing additional gear that you don't need. if you have adequate cooling, air circulation, and air filtering then there is no need to vent your room. most commercial growers run sealed environments. you avoid the introduction of spores, mold, mildew, and pests.
what is a "cooling unit"? large rooms either run chillers, minisplit a/c's, or air handlers. if a cooling unit is not one of those then you are wrong again.
you probably haven't been in a "big room" in your life. sure doesn't sound like it. plenty of large grow ops do not run controllers for several reasons. most importantly; most large ops are running either air handlers or minisplit a/c's. you can't plug air handler's or minisplits into grow room controllers. so if you can't use your grow room controller for temperature or humidity control then what is the point of paying $600-$1400 for a controller that only runs your co2? why not just get a co2 controller for half the price? i guess you are one of those guys who likes to buy shit for show but that has no functionality.
at what point is Beaver in a blog battle? can you read or are you just here flamming?
in any hydro setup you want water temps of 65. there is no instance in mj growing in which you want air temps during the light cycle to be 65. have you ever grown before? i'll say it again...co2 uptake is optimal at 85 degrees for marijuana. this will not affect internode spacing or bud density.
Sir.Ganga
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Hey Matt I do not know what all the crap is about but if you run co2 at 1000ppm your temps can range into the mid 90's with no problem. If your room is completely sealed then you will need a controller to switch between exhaust and co2. if you room is not sealed then cooling the room with an a/c will work, don't vent, ocillate and you should be O.K. Running a filter in the main room will also help with smell.
Good luck
Good luck
BeaverHuntr
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Dude you're a shit head I successfully ran DWC for like 3 years straight in AZ where temps reach 115 degrees in the summer. You know what I did shit head? I thought outside the box and instead of using straight 5 gallon buckets I went to home depot and bought 5 gallon igloo sport coolers.. Kept my water temps under 68 degrees for 7 days straight.. Think outside the box you dummy. Dont mess with me and DWC my very first grows were DWC,and I did it for a few years.
BeaverHuntr
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Cavorkybuds420 is a retard who probably has one shitty grow under his belt and got root rot on DWC from high water temps and now he is claiming to be the "messiah of cannabis growing" Nuglets speaks the truth and sounds knowledgeable Cavorkybuds420 sounds like a buffoon who has one DWC grow under his belt and finally found out that high water temps in any hydro grow will lead to root rot fucking jabroni.
BeaverHuntr
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Hey Nuglets, I proved my theory correct.. Check out this butt wipe in the DWC threads with all sorts of water temp problems in DWC ..lol
click the linnk below
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/525634-please-i-need-help-lots-3.html
click the linnk below
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/525634-please-i-need-help-lots-3.html
bird mcbride
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Ghetto cooler can be set up by removing the door off an old fridge, tape a sheet of styrofoam to replace the door. Place duct holes top and bottom and run two ducts to the grow-op. Use a fan to circulate. Mj plants use oxygen when the lights are out.
matt7835706
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Now this is what I though but I keep getting mixed responces from people on here? I was also told that you should on use c02 only in veg!? The last time I checked c02 is used by all plant through out there entire life cycle am I wrong!!! Maybe there is someone that is able to clear this up for me, and why would I need a controler if the room is seal I wouldn't want to vent then would I? Maybe a night vent just after the light goes out, I would rather not vent at all which is why I started this thread to try and get my temps inline with out having to send the stink outside?
peace
nuglets
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i'm not here to argue with anyone. everyone is entited to their opinion. but; except for a few specific strains maybe; if you run your plants in the mid 90's i don't care what your co2 ppm is. you are going to have MAJOR issues. i wouldn't go near 90 is i were you. try for 84-86. co2 only needs to be used in flower when the plants can use elevated levels introduced by generators and burners. chances are the ambient levels in your room are 350-500ppm. vegging plants can only process a small amount of co2. possibly if you were running a room full of mature mothers or plants vegging 2 months. anything short of that and you are just wasting co2.
also, if your room is completely sealed then you have no in or out vents; none. so if sir ganja says you need a controller then this is wrong. first off; in a sealed room you don't need a controller. secondly a sealed room has no vents. you are correct that you would not want to vent a sealed room.
matt7835706
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my temps are like i had said earlier running about 29-33 which is 84-91 so i think ill be ok?? like you said nuglets 85-90 i think in an earlier post.Only a 10 days in and the seedlings seem to be ok, I did get up to 40 one day when a fan timer went down and they stressed for about a two days, I added just a small amount of b-52 and they started to grow again, they look good at this point just pusing out the second set of true leaves. anyway ill keep you aqll posted im not adding a/c just going to run c02 in flowering
nuglets
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if you are pushing 90-91 in veg then that's way too hot. even with co2. plants that young don't need co2. they can't process anymore than what is available in the ambient air. the only time you need co2 in veg is when you are vegging monsters for like 2 months or you have a bunch of moms in the room. i don't use co2 at all in veg. it's just a waste. young plants like that can't process it. i've heard they can't really use anymore than 400-600ppm which is pretty much already available in the ambient air. it's like feeding vegging plants 1400ppm. they just can't use those nutes.
86 degrees in flower if your plants are healthy and have co2. 74-78 in veg and flower (when you aren't using co2). 91 in veg will lead to problems. the only reason you don't see anything yet is because they are seedlings. 10 days is nothing. wait till 3 weeks.
Sir.Ganga
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Even in a sealed room Matt you should cycle fresh air in once in awhile, so a night intake may work well, then if you want you can supply a shot of fresh o2 rich air. Having your rooms hotter than recommended can be done you just have to remember that everything speeds up and you must keep up with the cycle.
I no longer run co2 but when I did I ran it in the summer for that reason. My flower room had 8 600's and ran at a temp of 90-100 with no problems at a co2 level of 1000ppm, I had to water and dump my dehumidifier 2-3 times a day but it can be done. I ran my veg in the same conditions with a ppm of 600-700, but they grew to fast for my cycle.
Heat and co2 work hand in hand and can speed the whole process up but there is definetly added work involved or nuglets is right problems can happen and fast.
Good Luck
I no longer run co2 but when I did I ran it in the summer for that reason. My flower room had 8 600's and ran at a temp of 90-100 with no problems at a co2 level of 1000ppm, I had to water and dump my dehumidifier 2-3 times a day but it can be done. I ran my veg in the same conditions with a ppm of 600-700, but they grew to fast for my cycle.
Heat and co2 work hand in hand and can speed the whole process up but there is definetly added work involved or nuglets is right problems can happen and fast.
Good Luck
cavorkybuds420
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Ha ha ha some of you guys need to get a life other than RIU. No dwc under my belt yet. And when there is an issue you fix it thus why a made a post asking for advice. Oh and ya if you cant keep room temps down then there are other options. By the way i belive this post is about using an ac and co2? Why troll cuz you look like shit in the real world so get online and do evrything to look like a pro. Every one who grow does what works best for them. Beaver put a glass outside in the 110 degree weather with is how hot it gets here. and one inside were atleast i keep my hous a 75 and gurantee in a couple of hours your glass's of water will both be real close to temp of there surroundings. Oh and i have notice that at room temps at 65 f and co2 at 1200 during flower its very easy to achieve 800 gram plants, will take 8 weeks veg but well worth the wait. Ha ha ha love ignorant peeps, who have no life other than google and RIU. Oh and thats in soil.
cavorkybuds420
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Matt get a couple timers one for co2 and other for AC. set up were when C02 comes on the ac turns off. Dont turn ac on right as co2 shuts off let the Co2 settle for about 15 to 30 mins the have your ac come back on. You will have a little waist. No way to stop that. when you open your door there is waste wafting out. so on and so forth. do what works best for you. and take evrything Anyone else says including I with a grain of salt. What may work for them might not work for you. Co2 enrichment is costly especially with bottled. I have exaughst on lights and ac. I first used bottled then got a generator, cost is far better. Temps can reach as high as 85 with co2 of around 1200 ppm. ofcourse more ppm higher temps can be tollerated. Its not wether temps need to be higher with co2 but can the higher temps be tollerated. I want all prick head "no it all's" to drop temps next grow to 70 f or lower then start another argument in some else's thread. Again this is all relative to most strains some prefer all enviromental conditions to be more or less. Matt do what works for you! And sorry Others and I took up this thread to make a point that is completly irrelavent to the topic. With co2 your temps will work.
BeaverHuntr
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I put a glass outside ?? Huh dude you sound retarded.
BeaverHuntr
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You can use it in Veg/bloom I only use it in bloom In veg I noticed my plants got a lil bigger but not much, in my opinion it wasnt worth it to run co2 in veg especially with lights on for 18/6, since you are to only use co2 at lights on.
