2022 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers

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UpInSmoke420$24

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Looks good brotha...I am in Rhode Island and had a pretty nice outdoor grow last year. Got 70 grams from one BlackWater OG Kush plant. The seed was from a buddies BlackWater that hermed during flower and popped a bunch of seeds. Ending up with a beautiful female. Grew from middle of may to october 13th...outdoor from seed to harvest. You are going to have some monsters their once those grow all season outdoors.
 
stealthfader508

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UpInSmoke420$24 said:
as in testers....are you flowering those ones indoors or moving them outside once spring hits to grow all spring and summer?
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yes, this is my flower tent .... i'm searching through strains to find something for this years outdoor ... I have clones of everything in the tent, but the outdoors won't go in the ground until early june this year
 
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I see. Thats what I was figuring. At first, I thought you were going to put that outdoors in like May and let the go until October. I was like DAMNNN those baby girls are going to be big lol I got away with middle of May last year but year...they were a little stunted in the beginning so I think early June would of been a little better. I think I am going to start them indoors this year in like March or April and when they are fully mature adults and can handle the outdoors then put them out around end of May, early June to finish up.
 
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UpInSmoke420$24 said:
I see. Thats what I was figuring. At first, I thought you were going to put that outdoors in like May and let the go until October. I was like DAMNNN those baby girls are going to be big lol I got away with middle of May last year but year...they were a little stunted in the beginning so I think early June would of been a little better. I think I am going to start them indoors this year in like March or April and when they are fully mature adults and can handle the outdoors then put them out around end of May, early June to finish up.
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Good idea ... in years past I've always used mothers day (1st or 2nd week in may) as a benchmark for going outside in Mass ... in a greenhouse I can even get away with going out in late april .... the temps have never been a problem, but the daylight can be ... when I go out that early it seems like I always get one or two that start to flower because of the sudden reduction in daylight ... once that happens and they start to reveg I've never had much luck with the plant after that ... if starting indoors i'd suggest gradually reducing the indoor lights until you're at the same day/night light cycle at the time they go out .... I'm waiting until early June this year because I don't want/need 10 foot plants ... plants that big are too much of a pain in the ass to keep healthy, harvest, etc.
 
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Yes. I agree with you 100%. My first indoor run was in a 2x4x58 inches height and with the light hanging it didn't leave me much room to get them tall even at all. anything over 2-3 feet and the tops would of been torched. 60-70 day veg time is all you really technically need to get a decently good harvest of some good dank. I got almost 300 grams off a 200 watt spyder farmer sf2000 during veg and mars hydro sp3000 during flowering of some dank ass bud. White Widow, Bruce Banner, and LA Confidential. Had them all tested at MCR in Framingham and hit 27%, 25 %, and 23%. Only vegged for about 65 days and flowered for 63.
 
YardG

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A few miles north of the border I was really hopeful this year would be a better year for outdoors than last, but FWIW the Farmer's Almanac is predicting much of the same. Dry early, wetter and colder than average right when we need warmer and drier.

I'm thinking I'll try to keep plant numbers down this year and try to swing some sort of greenhouse-y thing to at least keep the rain off.
 
Jcue81

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YardG said:
A few miles north of the border I was really hopeful this year would be a better year for outdoors than last, but FWIW the Farmer's Almanac is predicting much of the same. Dry early, wetter and colder than average right when we need warmer and drier.

I'm thinking I'll try to keep plant numbers down this year and try to swing some sort of greenhouse-y thing to at least keep the rain off.
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Yup, I’m done trying to swing for the fences In New England. Smaller plants in smaller pots that can be easily be moved and pheno hunting through a resistant line is my appproach this year
 
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UpInSmoke420$24

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Yes. That is your best bet if you're going to grow outside in New England. I decided to try it last year and quickly realized the most efficient way to grow outdoors in New England is in pots, big enough if you are doing living soil to get the biology going good and enough nutrients to the plant threw the cycle, but small enough where you can move them indoors, out of the sun, into the sun, and so on. Especially during the end of flower when the humidity is 80 plus and temps are getting down into the 50's at night, you want to be able to move them into shelter or indoors when it rains or when it gets too cold. Towards the end I was bringing them inside EVERY time it rained, got too cold at night, or any issues that needed addressing, and even had a big box fan blowing on them outside 24/7 to keep pests and mold/but rot at bay. Almost guaranteed a nice fresh batch of bud rot if you don't really do some things to prevent it. If you just put them in the ground and let them go, or throw them in pots and leave them in the same spot the whole time, your probably going to have to throw out at least half of your grow or more (if not the whole thing). Even with all the precautions I did, I still ended up with about 4-7 grams of bud rotted nugs I had to toss in the old trash and a few budworms. Assholes had two fan leaves filled with bud worm eggs or caterpillar eggs in the beginning of flower. Thank God I caught those before they hatched.
 
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UpInSmoke420$24

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Smaller pots you can move will make all of the difference though. Even with complete opposite of good grow conditions last year for the veg and flower cycles (warm and dry in veg, and wet and cold in flower with a few really crazy out of no where 100 F + days) I still managed about 80 grams dry weight of really decent smoke in a 5 gallon pot from the end of May to early October.
 
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CCGNZ

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UpInSmoke420$24 said:
Yes. That is your best bet if you're going to grow outside in New England. I decided to try it last year and quickly realized the most efficient way to grow outdoors in New England is in pots, big enough if you are doing living soil to get the biology going good and enough nutrients to the plant threw the cycle, but small enough where you can move them indoors, out of the sun, into the sun, and so on. Especially during the end of flower when the humidity is 80 plus and temps are getting down into the 50's at night, you want to be able to move them into shelter or indoors when it rains or when it gets too cold. Towards the end I was bringing them inside EVERY time it rained, got too cold at night, or any issues that needed addressing, and even had a big box fan blowing on them outside 24/7 to keep pests and mold/but rot at bay. Almost guaranteed a nice fresh batch of bud rot if you don't really do some things to prevent it. If you just put them in the ground and let them go, or throw them in pots and leave them in the same spot the whole time, your probably going to have to throw out at least half of your grow or more (if not the whole thing). Even with all the precautions I did, I still ended up with about 4-7 grams of bud rotted nugs I had to toss in the old trash and a few budworms. Assholes had two fan leaves filled with bud worm eggs or caterpillar eggs in the beginning of flower. Thank God I caught those before they hatched.
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I'm in SE MA. and have been at it 30+ yrs., I also use pots for the mobility,last season mid Sept to 1st wk ,Oct is where rubber meets road,lst yr. that time period was to rainy,2020 was great,hope that almanac is off,I start about 3 seeds (f) or 5 seeds(r) of about 15 or so strains,I clone all the bottom branches.Last season 7lbs and 2020 almost 10lbs,big diff when it doesn't rain those key 3-4 weeks,I'm pretty convinced that window mid Sept-early Oct is the only thing that makes any diff,I've seen shitty spring and rainy summers and the plants are the same size regardless,but from mid flower to finish is what makes the season IMO
 
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CCGNZ said:
I'm in SE MA. and have been at it 30+ yrs., I also use pots for the mobility, last season mid Sept to 1st wk ,Oct is where rubber meets road,lst yr. that time period was to rainy,2020 was great, hope that almanac is off, I start about 3 seeds (f) or 5 seeds(r) of about 15 or so strains, I clone all the bottom branches.Last season 7lbs and 2020 almost 10lbs,big diff when it doesn't rain those key 3-4 weeks, I'm pretty convinced that window mid Sept-early Oct is the only thing that makes any diff,I've seen shitty spring and rainy summers and the plants are the same size regardless, but from mid flower to finish is what makes the season IMO
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Oh yeah. Your definitely right about that. I am in Northwest Rhode Island, so I am not far off from you. The weather was TERRIBLE at the end of the season last season. The last 2-3 weeks of the grow was just straight rain, wind, and a shit ton of humidity. The complete opposite of what we want during end of flower. I think she went through a hurricane and two tropical storms last year under an umbrella LMAO That didn't work too well. I swear they spent more time on my table in the window that they did outside the last 2 weeks last year lol Then out of nowhere we had a few couple day hear waves of 100 plus temps. It was ridiculous. I still don't know how I ended up with such good smoke and a decent yield at that too for only 5 gallons of soil and all dry amendments. Also was my first grow ever, so can't complain with the results. Have done a few indoor runs since and have had damn good results. The outdoor grow definitely taught me a lot about the cannabis plant though and the resiliency they have to rough weather.
 
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I plan on throwing a few more out there this year. I found like 4 seeds from Tom Slater Center's medical facility in Providence, RI. One random seed in 4 of the eighth packages I purchased throughout the year. Purple Cherry Ripple, Purple Chem, American Dream, and Chemberrily. I think I am going to pop them outside this year instead of doing them indoors, just because my indoor grow space is limited to a 2x4 tent and another 2x3 tent until I get my 7x10 grow shed outside all insulated and ready to go. I have more seeds right now than I could probably even grow in a lifetime with the space I have, and I really want to grow out most of these genetics I have, so I figured doing the bag seeds outdoors would be the safest bet just in case they are either males or herm doing flower due to the seeds most likely coming from either a self pollination or another herm in their grow space that pollinated it.
 
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I have a few really good outdoor strains to try out this year though. Gorilla Zkittlez by Barney Farm is supposed to yield crazy numbers outdoors. I have some Blackberry Moonrocks by Anesia that claim a 33+ thc level that do very well outdoors and yield very good numbers. Then I also have a Northern Lights by Sensi, and Bruce Banner by ILGM. May throw some Rainbow Chip from Exotic Genetix and White Widow from Seedsman. Maybe an LA Confidential too since OG's usually do pretty good outdoors
 
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CCGNZ

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UpInSmoke420$24 said:
I plan on throwing a few more out there this year. I found like 4 seeds from Tom Slater Center's medical facility in Providence, RI. One random seed in 4 of the eighth packages I purchased throughout the year. Purple Cherry Ripple, Purple Chem, American Dream, and Chemberrily. I think I am going to pop them outside this year instead of doing them indoors, just because my indoor grow space is limited to a 2x4 tent and another 2x3 tent until I get my 7x10 grow shed outside all insulated and ready to go. I have more seeds right now than I could probably even grow in a lifetime with the space I have, and I really want to grow out most of these genetics I have, so I figured doing the bag seeds outdoors would be the safest bet just in case they are either males or herm doing flower due to the seeds most likely coming from either a self pollination or another herm in their grow space that pollinated it.
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I've got a seed library that is ridiculous also, I've bought packs and haven't popped one seed,every year after harvest I start ordering and after that I say I'm done buying,then the next yr. comes and there I am again,between the new varieties and whatever else I buy more, guess I look at it as re investing .This year I'm popping 5 seeds of Soma's Amtyhest bud,from a Attitude order 4 yrs. ago and some old Jordan OTI God/AK47 that I've had forever. But I still have 8 strains I just got that I've never tried along w/7-8 strains I have experience with to make up my arsenal for 2022,It's a ton of work and at 57 I'm not a young buck but as long as I'm capable,however my job is physical and I've been at the weights etc since my 20's so it's like preparing mentally for the physical beatdown during the summer,thank heavens I get a lay off ev. winter to trim and rest my tired bones.
 
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CCGNZ

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UpInSmoke420$24 said:
I have a few really good outdoor strains to try out this year though. Gorilla Zkittlez by Barney Farm is supposed to yield crazy numbers outdoors. I have some Blackberry Moonrocks by Anesia that claim a 33+ thc level that do very well outdoors and yield very good numbers. Then I also have a Northern Lights by Sensi, and Bruce Banner by ILGM. May throw some Rainbow Chip from Exotic Genetix and White Widow from Seedsman. Maybe an LA Confidential too since OG's usually do pretty good outdoors
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I've checked out Anesia,but it's mostly overseas and I've only used Attitude across the ocean,they have slipped and they're stock is depleted and they don't stock Anesia,N.Atlantic Seed co in Maine now carries B.Farm and D.Passion as well as G.House so now I'm just copping From the ton of USA banks. I run BFarm Van.Kush alot,Cream and Sugar from Ex. Gen does well outside but I think is retired now. In addition to photo's I also do 3-4 strains of Auto's to get some early harvest in.
 
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Heyy old friends and new. Yea, it's true, I'm back for the season. Ready to get started (yawn) like the bear waking up. What am I gonna do differently this year? Not much. Was thinking of having some type of wagons or carts for a couple 35G fabric pots, making transport easy. 5 gallon pails are excellent and have produced some beautys here in Western Mass.
There are methods for gigunda (pronounced Jie-Goon-Da) plants, depending on strain and yes, naturally, weather. Mother Nature cannot be predicted, tamed, bribed or manipulated with her gifts. I remember last year wind became a serious issue on more than one occasion. I also remember that some of that happened without warning, some with plenty of warning.
Just gonna toss this out there.... those Yellow Sticky boards do absolute wonders in pest prevention. All season.
Well, it's good to be back. Gotta dig out the seed bank.
Peace and blessings upon your season.
 
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UpInSmoke420$24

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CCGNZ said:
I've got a seed library that is ridiculous also, I've bought packs and haven't popped one seed,every year after harvest I start ordering and after that I say I'm done buying,then the next yr. comes and there I am again,between the new varieties and whatever else I buy more, guess I look at it as re investing .This year I'm popping 5 seeds of Soma's Amtyhest bud,from a Attitude order 4 yrs. ago and some old Jordan OTI God/AK47 that I've had forever. But I still have 8 strains I just got that I've never tried along w/7-8 strains I have experience with to make up my arsenal for 2022,It's a ton of work and at 57 I'm not a young buck but as long as I'm capable,however my job is physical and I've been at the weights etc since my 20's so it's like preparing mentally for the physical beatdown during the summer,thank heavens I get a lay off ev. winter to trim and rest my tired bones.
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Same here bud. I mean, I am a lot younger at 31 but I feel it coming lol I landscape and those 2 months off in December and January really help a lot. Some jobs you just need a physical and mental break from.
 
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UpInSmoke420$24

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CCGNZ said:
I've checked out Anesia,but it's mostly overseas and I've only used Attitude across the ocean,they have slipped and they're stock is depleted and they don't stock Anesia,N.Atlantic Seed co in Maine now carries B.Farm and D.Passion as well as G.House so now I'm just copping From the ton of USA banks. I run BFarm Van.Kush alot,Cream and Sugar from Ex. Gen does well outside but I think is retired now. In addition to photo's I also do 3-4 strains of Auto's to get some early harvest in.
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Sensible Seeds Check them out. They are in the UK but are very reliable. I put an order in and even though there were stock issues where they didn't have 2 of my items that I ordered that they said were in stock, they made up for it and more. I ordered Blackberry Moonrocks and Watermelon Zkittlez by Pyramid but they did not have the Watermelon Zkittlez. Then on the replacement item I wanted the same thing happened. So they gave me over like $100 of seeds for free. I only paid 75 dollars for 25 fem Blackberry Moonrocks and recieved 5 Gorilla Zkittlez by Barneys, a northern lights fem from Sensi, 6 Sunset Sherbet from Pheno Finders, and Old Man Socks by their breeders all for free. As soon as the order was finalized, they sent it out within like 2 hours and it was at my house in the U.S. from the U.K. in under a week.
 
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