What yield do you pull from a 4x4 ?????
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Southernontariogrower
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I dont weigh and l dont fill my 4x4 very often, .but 4oz plant isint big, so 8 would be 2lbs in 4x4, so filling it, 9 7g plastic pots should give 2 and a quarter lbs approx. Growig without vegging at all or minimal. So with leds and some veg time 3-4 lbs a 4x4 should be commonplace within next year or so. Maybe over 5lbs a 4x4. With good lights and co2 anything is possibility, especially if everythings on point, lol. And good genetics.
Southernontariogrower
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Safe pgrs? Kelp and fulvic acid folliar spray, they are a natural pgr that you can smoke without any toxicity. The growth from this phenominal. Try this first.
I have 5 flowering in my 4x4 tent, waiting for my Maxsisun 400 watt Dimmable grow light
I’m hoping for 3/5 lbs
Wastei
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Well I wouldn't want to smoke either kelp or fulvic acid from being sprayed late in flower. I think most people already know about kelp/humic/fulvic blend on here so I don't know why you really post this? Fulvic acid is fulvic acid and not a PGR.
If you follow my journal you'll find my foliar recipes I use. I'm very strict and only use PGR's sparingly. If you want something natural that act as a PGR I would look closer at amino acids. I'm currently experimenting with COS(Chitosan Oligosaccharide) which is a natural extract that seem to have similar qualities as Triacontanol. You see the main effect in higher nitrogen retention, photosynthesis and phototropism.
Most mimetic compounds are more stable than their natural counterpart, that's why they were first synthesized. It's kinda impossible to use Brassinolide without (24-epibrassinolide) as an example. Problem is most people hear PGR and they loose their socks. People bash without knowing.
Southernontariogrower
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Veg only, dont spray anything on buds. F no!
Southernontariogrower
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Didnt see about in flower, only veg kelp or fulvic spray, but can feed.
Southernontariogrower
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You do know quite a bit sbout pgrs. So you can use in flower? Folliar? No, not kelp or f a.
Wastei
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I spray up until 4th week from flip. But only TRIA, COS and aminos(all natural extracts). Kelp/humic/fulvic is a little bit to dirty to be sprayed late in flower.
All the others is easily consumed through the leaves. If you want to use something like BAP(6-benzylaminopurine) you better know it's half-life and metabolites to know when the compounds is no longer detectable in the plants tissues.
Commercially BAP is sprayed on most vegetables and fruits after harvest for added shelf life. Every living human being in the west who's not been growing their own foods been consuming it. BAP should in my opinion be used to increase fruit richness instead of shelf life, that's what it were intended for. Growing foods and crops thats actually way more nutritious than their natural counterpart. Sad it's only used for profit.
bk78
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Yeah not gonna happen bud
Doug Dawson
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Where do people get these numbers from? Is it Youtube filling peoples heads with these ridiculous goals? Four or Five pounds in a 4x4 tent, WTF. It must be my inexperience showing but I feel like that goal is way over the top.
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xtsho
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It is over the top. I can see doing 2 maybe a little more but that's pushing the limits of that size of space. And then you'd have to have everything dialed in and know what you're doing. But I could see the biggest yield coming from a SOG grow with the right strain and lots of light.
Southernontariogrower
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They say humic acid is pgr but too big of mollecules for folliar, fulvic small molecules so stomata can uptake easily. Kelp fastest growing plant so excites growth. Im sure most pgrs are just plant derrivitaves
Then 400 grams is good, 800 is really good, anything above that l would consider dialed in. 1g per watt. Is nothing to be ashamed of.
im trying and testing out the dwc, growing is slow I think, and the leaves are still spotty, yellow. But my first time growing in a tent, and dwc bubbling bucket so we’ll see what yields
Nice man results! congrats, mine veg for 9 weeks, then turned to flower. Did you use co2 in the grow
ntg908
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DWC is amazing IMO. if you use the right micros and manage them correctly without burning your plants or locking most of them out, you can get well over a HP off a decent sized plant. Honestly you dont even need micros to do that, just a good light and dont neglect checking things every day. Shouldnt be slower growth or anything unless you hit a couple issues with roots or stress. We all do it sometimes, me more than most lmao good luck though! hope you like it
ntg908
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I do not, not yet at least. I know the plants can use more light or PAR with higher amounts of co2, but i dont at my home grow. Now at my dispensary grows we do. It is a noticable difference. You put on allot more weight and have much more rapid growth. 9 weeks seems awesome for a nice big ole bush! aha thats great. Im just now getting into clones which i can pop off allot more faster. Right now im trying to see how much i can pile on with only 3 weeks of veg before flipping to 12/12
Southernontariogrower
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Ever try homebrew co2, l use in my 4x4, 15ltr water jug, 2kg sugar, 3 yeast packs, ketchup or OJ. Just a squirt. Lasts 7-8 days, use airline to pipe above plants. Use water bottle filter to cut smell. Will be following your grow, dont forget to update as they progress. I dont veg indoor, maybe l should start to. Will judge veg by your results. Best of luck.