herming my garden

[Trousers]

"Silver plays no known natural biological role in humans or plants, and possible health effects of silver are a disputed subject. Silver itself is not toxic, but most silver salts are, and some may be carcinogenic.[SUP][dubious – discuss][/SUP]

Do you know what "dubious" means, lol?

Silver and compounds containing it (such as colloidal silver) can be absorbed into the circulatory system and become deposited in various body tissues, leading to argyria, which results in a blue-grayish pigmentation of the skin, eyes, and mucous membranes. Although this condition does not otherwise harm a person's health, it is disfiguring and usually permanent. Argyria is rare, and mild forms are sometimes mistaken for cyanosis.[SUP][6][/SUP]"

Could you provide the amount of colloidal silver and concentration it would take to get argyria?
You would be shocked at how much it takes.

The amount of colloidal silver I use on 10 plants would be safe to ingest by any human. People ingest and even vaporize colloidal silver for health reasons. You are not smart at all.

"Silver ions and silver compounds show a toxic effect on some bacteria, viruses, algae and fungi,

That is why people ingest it.

typical for heavy metals such as lead or mercury, but without the high toxicity to humans normally associated with these other metals. Its germicidal effects kill many microbial organisms in vitro, but testing and standardization of silver products is difficult.[SUP][[/SUP]"

Did you even read what you cut and pasted? Did you find something yet that says colloidal silver is a mutagen?
If it were a mutagen, why aren't the millions of people that have ingested colloidal silver experiencing health problems?

were jumping around now. i already know for a fact that it is a mutation.

it destorys life.

Collidal silver is not a mutagen.
When using colloidal silver to produce male flowers, no mutation takes place. That is a fact. You do not know what a mutagen is, much less what a mutation is.
If it is a mutagen and you know this for a fact, you should be able to easily provide something that backs up your dumb lies.

 

[bmeat]

"Metals
Many metals, such as arsenic, silver, cadmium, chromium, nickel and their compounds may be mutagenic, they may however act via different mechanisms.[SUP][23][/SUP] Arsenic, silver, chromium, iron, and nickel may be associated with the production of reactive oxygen species, and some of these may also alter the fidelity of DNA replication. Nickel may also be linked to DNA hypermethylation and histone deacetylation, while cadmium may inhibit DNA mismatch repair."

 

[Trousers]

"The reason for the low THC content in hemp

Go away boy.

is that most THC is formed in resin glands on
buds and flowers of the female cannabis plant. Industrial
hemp is not cultivated to produce buds, and therefore lacks the
primary component that forms the marijuana high. Rather, industrial hemp is produced from male stock, becuase they grow more vigorously and taller than female plants, resulting in higher output with less input."

and you smoke your mutated, "stronger" seeded bud trousers.

PEACEE!

What are you babbling about hemp for?

 

[Sand4x105]

The problem with "Idiots" ....
They just don't know they are idiots...

They think all others views are idioic, and their opinion is the one true opinion and is the true reality...
Which makes them seem stupid to everyone else...

Being book smart, without any practial experience, makes you a smart Idiot...
Passing your opinion off as fact and the truth makes you a Fukkin Asshole...

It's ok to not be a know it all at all things....
WTF....

 

[Jogro]

this is wrong. it is precisely why we call the seeds feminized and not female anymore

One more time, you don't know what you're talking about, and I'm not going to argue with idiots.

, and we grow males for hemp since they're bigger faster growing and more efficient for their fibers.

Who do you mean "we"? Have you ever actually grown a fiber hemp plant in your life? I strongly doubt it.

See here (and note, this isn't exactly a "new" development). Since you haven't figured it out, the "monoecious" hemp plants are all phenotypically hermaphroditic:

Pubdate: October, 1956:
Source: Fibres (Engineering and Chemistry)
Author: Carl V. Feaster, Agronomist, Field Crops Research Branch, Agricultural Research Service, U.S.D.A.

MONOECIOUS HEMP BREEDING IN THE UNITED STATES

The hemp breeding programme in the United States is being directed toward improvement of fibre quality through the development of strains with uniform maturity among plants. Present commercial varieties are dioecious, with the male plants returning about three weeks before the female plants. This results in fibre of different maturity and consequently less uniformity.

The development of monoecious strains, where all plants mature at approximately the same time, is an effective means of eliminating much of the variability in fibre quality among plants. Monoecious hemp also may allow for changes in processing methods to the extent that water retting would be economically feasible. At present, hemp in the United States is dew retted.

Trials and results

The original monoecious plants were selected by Borthwick and Scully*, while conducting photoperiodic studies with Kentucky hemp, a dioecious variety. This material was released to the Hemp Improvement Project and a monoecious hemp has been developed by several generations of sibbing selected monoecious plants. The monoecious character has become relatively stable. A few female plants appear in some strains; however, no male plants occur unless foreign pollen is involved.

Yield trials comparing Kentucky hemp with Kentucky monoecious show the yield of fibre to be about the same for the two varieties; however, the percentage of fibre has averaged slightly higher for the dioecious variety and the stalk yield slightly higher for the monoecious variety.

Evaluation of individual plants from Kentucky monoecious showed considerable variation in the percentage of fibre, stem weight, stem weight, stem diameter, and weight/diameter ratio of the stem. Per cent fibre was negatively correlated with the other measured characters. That is, plants with low stem weight, small stem diameter, or weight/diameter ratio of the stem were relatively high in per cent fibre. When the progenies from these selected selfed plants were grown, heritability was found to be high for per cent fibre but was negligible for stem weight, stem diameter, and weight/diameter ratio of the stem. These results indicate that although stem weight, stem diameter, and weight/diameter ratio of the stem is correlated with per cent fibre, the stem measurements do not express the inherited phase of per cent fibre. The measurements do, however, account for some of the differences in per cent fibre which are due to environment. When proper adjustment of per cent fibre was made on the basis of stem weight, stem diameter, or weight/diameter ratio of the stem, the variability due to genetic differences was more evident and selection of plants inherently high in fibre was more effective.

The genetic variability and heritability of a character is indicative of the extent to which improvement is possible through selection. Improvement of fibre content within this strain appears promising since it is relatively heterozygous for per cent fibre and heritability of per cent fibre is high.

Some of the details of the above work appear in an article entitled 'Genetic and Environmental Variability of Percent Fibre and Other Characters in Monoecious Hemp, Cannabis Sativa L.' The Textile Quarterly, Volume 6, No. 1

*Borthwick, A., and Scully, N.J. Photoperiodic Responses of Hemp. The Botanical Gazette 116; 14-29. September 1954

gene pools sure as hell become feminized, we do create it directly and on purpose, not even as a side effect/mistake, so you lost me completely.

you need to do the reading, not me

I've "lost" you, because you're wrongly throwing around terms you don't understand. Let me help you out, "Mendel".

Gene pool: The gene pool is the set of all genes, or genetic information, in any population, usually of a particular species

Get that? BY DEFINITION the cannabis gene pool contains all female variant genes already. A gene pool CANNOT be "feminized" and if you actually understood the terms you're throwing around, you wouldn't be spouting nonsense like the above.

 

[Coho]

popcorn anyone?

 

[Ghettobird209]

lmao packn a bowl myself this guy bmeat is hilarious, im just surprised he hasnt been banned yet

 

[Jogro]

im done, im tired of trying to help you understand.

Awesome.
Thank you for not "assisting" us anymore.

oh and, seeded cannabis is stronger than sensimilla!? oh, ok!

On a THC/weight basis for the entire bud, no. Se-eds contain no THC, so buds with se-eds are going to be weaker on a per-weight basis.

But on a PER TRICHROME basis, it very well might be true that seeded weed is better than seedless, not just because of more THC in the trichromes, but also because of more favorable ratios of OTHER cannabinoids. Some people do believe this, not the least of whom is DJ Short, author of "cultivating exceptional cannabis" and creator of the famous "Blueberry" strains. He's been involved in actual cannabis growing research, and commercial breeding projects; he's not just some crank.

This, to my knowledge, is an open question; I don't know of any hard data looking at this particular issue. Which (seeded vs seedless) is stronger may also be both strain dependent and grow condition dependent. Historically speaking, prior to the advent of indoor cultivation under artificial lights (which is relatively new, only about 40 years old), the strongest cannabis in the world was seeded, and the best hash in the world was made from seeded plants.

 

[Jogro]

The problem with "Idiots" ....
They just don't know they are idiots...

Yup.

This is called the "Dunning-Kruger Effect".

Individuals who know the LEAST about a given topic, or who perform the WORST at given tasks tend to greatly overestimate their actual knowledge and ability. They simply don't know where the gaps in their ability or knowledge base are and mistakenly assume that everyone ELSE is wrong (eg, see above).

In converse, individuals who know the MOST about a given topic, or who perform the BEST at given tasks tend to UNDERESTIMATE their knowledge and performance. That's because they've spent some time to get where they are, and they're acutely aware of their specific limitations.

Charles Darwin effectively summarized the concept in 1871: "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

 

[AimAim]

Hey now! Bmeat is a world renowned cannabis geneticist. Don't get in his shit just because you are too slow to follow his logic and reasoning.

 

[bmeat]

One more time, you don't know what you're talking about, and I'm not going to argue with idiots.


Who do you mean "we"? Have you ever actually grown a fiber hemp plant in your life? I strongly doubt it.

See here (and note, this isn't exactly a "new" development). Since you haven't figured it out, the "monoecious" hemp plants are all phenotypically hermaphroditic:



I've "lost" you, because you're wrongly throwing around terms you don't understand. Let me help you out, "Mendel".

Gene pool: The gene pool is the set of all genes, or genetic information, in any population, usually of a particular species

Get that? BY DEFINITION the cannabis gene pool contains all female variant genes already. A gene pool CANNOT be "feminized" and if you actually understood the terms you're throwing around, you wouldn't be spouting nonsense like the above.

thats the thing. with a MUTATION, a gene pool can be altered, as it is when we create feminized seeds. if the mutation didnt alter/stick with the dna/gene pool, then the offspring would shake of the mutation from the silver/acid mother/father thing, and PRODUCE NORMAL, FEMALE AND MALE SEEDS, BUT IT DOESNT!!

also, seeded bud is not more potent trich for trich just becuase the plant is now putting the energy into making the babies, and not trying to get fertilized anymore.

trichs are just sticky spots for pollen to attach to, as well as pistils with trichs.

when the plant is pollinated, the trichs arent as strong becuase they loose one of their major components that make them produce lots of resin.

sure, they still will produce resin because they need a barrier for heat, bugs, excess moisture etc. but it is in no way shape or form stronger than sensi

after pollination is achieved, resin production falls. fact.

 

[Nitro1990]

thats the thing. with a MUTATION, a gene pool can be altered, as it is when we create feminized seeds. if the mutation didnt alter/stick with the dna/gene pool, then the offspring would shake of the mutation from the silver/acid mother/father thing, and PRODUCE NORMAL, FEMALE AND MALE SEEDS, BUT IT DOESNT!!

also, seeded bud is not more potent trich for trich just becuase the plant is now putting the energy into making the babies, and not trying to get fertilized anymore.

trichs are just sticky spots for pollen to attach to, as well as pistils with trichs.

when the plant is pollinated, the trichs arent as strong becuase they loose one of their major components that make them produce lots of resin.

sure, they still will produce resin because they need a barrier for heat, bugs, excess moisture etc. but it is in no way shape or form stronger than sensi

after pollination is achieved, resin production falls. fact.

 

[Indoor Sun King]

bmeat needs about 10-15 more years to develop.

sorry Trousers but I got to correct you on this one.....not a hope in hell, not even in 10 or 15 decades

 

[Trousers]

thats the thing. with a MUTATION, a gene pool can be altered, as it is when we create feminized seeds.

When you make a feminized seeds, either by chemical or rodelization, no mutation takes place. The dna is not altered. Could you show something that backs up your opinions?

if the mutation didnt alter/stick with the dna/gene pool, then the offspring would shake of the mutation from the silver/acid mother/father thing, and PRODUCE NORMAL, FEMALE AND MALE SEEDS, BUT IT DOESNT!!

Please prove your opinions before you try to present them as fact. You are not correct.

also, seeded bud is not more potent trich for trich just becuase the plant is now putting the energy into making the babies, and not trying to get fertilized anymore.

One of the greatest breeders around disagrees with you. I'll take DJ Short's word for it.

trichs are just sticky spots for pollen to attach to, as well as pistils with trichs.

wow

when the plant is pollinated, the trichs arent as strong becuase they loose one of their major components that make them produce lots of resin.

That is your opinion. You also believe that humans created hermaphrodites and that feminized seeds are a danger to the gene pool.

sure, they still will produce resin because they need a barrier for heat, bugs, excess moisture etc. but it is in no way shape or form stronger than sensi after pollination is achieved, resin production falls. fact.

I'll take the word of DJ Short over you. He has grown thousands of healthy plants, you have not grown one.

 

[puffntuff]

Bmeat your a lost cause brother. Go put your foam helmet back on and leave this alone. Stick to jacking to Internet porn and let the growing be done by qualified people

 

[AimAim]

Bmeat - You ought to cut your losses and bow out of this thread. JoGro pretty much mopped the floor with you. You do not have a clue what you are talking about, and the more you type the less credibility you have, if that is possible.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Plants are not humans.

From what I understand, marijuana plants have the ability to change sex/selfpolinate programmed into their dna.

I don't really understand the difference between stress induced sex change and colloidal silver sex change. But I do understand that the change itself is part of the plant's genetic make up as a failsafe for reproduction.

 

[Indoor Sun King]

Bmeat - You do not have a clue what you are talking about, and the more you type the less credibility you have, if that is possible.

no that is not possible because bmeat has no credibility to lose, but it is sure entertaining to watch him stick his foot into his mouth..... over and over again.

 

[bmeat]

i don't see how when he was wrong about most he said.

hemp is from males.

sensi is stronger than seeded flower.

adaption and evolution change genepools.

period I'm done. one day when a real botanist that has a degree plus thinks outside the box plus extensive experience comes around well know for sure.

 

[Indoor Sun King]

period I'm done.

if we could only be so lucky